Just wondering, Is it possible to operate the concorde with a profit in any gameworld
or
even if you felt a bit risky, The TU-144 concordski???
Problem is not making one of them profitable. Historical lines, or slight variants as JFK-AMS, are probably profitable(though I never tried). The tough part is to find enough lines like that to make the choice of that fleet group(and hence the loss of another fleet group) profitable as well. That's why extreme planes don't sell well in this game, the A380, for example - an excellent aircraft, but with a too small niche of efficiency. Most players will prefer most versatile aircraft.
aw yes i understand . Could you make 10 in a fleet group work if you had the demand ?
argh, lost a long answer due to a mistake on my side.
Long story short, be based(or headquartered) in JFK, have a strong company with one single fleet group(it's possible with single aisles like the 737-200, and maybe with smaller planes like the BAC 111-500, in the era, but single-aisle are better as a workhorse in those big airports), and it could be a lot of fun. Not the soundest move in terms of income, but if fun is more important than rankings, it could be possible. And maybe even somewhat profitable.
I've got great doubts on other possible airports. CDG or AMS don't have that much demand to all the US East coast airports, and LHR suffers from slot scarcity. Other London airports don't generate that much business demand. I don't know well the Asian market, so maybe there is a niche here, but it's doubtful, maybe DXB? from DXB, you can probably spam Hong Kong and Singapore and take over the demand by frequency wars. But there are not many other destinations, maybe Beijing(but 8,5% business demand, argh) or Heathrow(if you can find slots), Bangkok, and not much others. Seems possible, after study, probably 10-12 Concorde can fly from Dubai. Not much more. Below 2000NM, you're dead meat against single-aisle aicraft. Even longer for domestic flights(that's why JFK-West coast is a bad idea in Concorde, you can't compete against single-aisle aircraft on this segment, you need to be smaller than your opponents to raise prices insanely and still fill your planes, Hawaii is too far, there is just one possible flight to Anchorage).
So, JFK(with flights only to Western Europe, besides maybe Anchorage, but you won't make a lot of money there) or DBX(spamming Singapore, Hong Kong, and linking 2-3 other destinations in Asia or Europe). Unless someone has other ideas, I don't see any other place with any chance of success.
This is based on those facts :
_Concorde does lose money at standard pricing.
==>You need high company image to raise prices high enough. So you need an already big company
==>You need opposition to fly bigger aircraft than you, so that the frequency rule can fill your overpriced flights
==>You need routes with a lot of business & first demand, to make more money from your limited in-plane space.
_Single-aisle aircraft are efficient on routes up to 2000NM
==> You cannot afford to face them, they are too small, you couldn't fill your birds with punitive prices
And don't forget that magic carpet has been nerfed. In other words, economic class must be at least 50% of your available seating, or you'll be punished.
Quote from: gazzz0x2z on December 27, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
And don't forget that magic carpet has been nerfed. In other words, economic class must be at least 50% of your available seating, or you'll be punished.
Incorrect. It has been nerfed for airlnes with low CI to prevent it being used as a startup strategy. Once you're in the 90+ range then it's fine to go all C/F in a plane (just good luck selling seats...)