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Reports and Requests => Feature requests => Topic started by: JumboShrimp on May 31, 2016, 07:11:16 PM

Title: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: JumboShrimp on May 31, 2016, 07:11:16 PM
Could Destination View pricing work like a single route pricing?

In single route pricing, we get feedback.  It shows current price.  Determining default vs. current price, while still treated as mystery (default is not shown), it is not a complete mystery.  Pressing reset changes the price to default, and we can see it happening (cancel if we were just trying to figure out this mystery of default price).

On Destination View pricing, we are completely blind, there is no feedback.  The screen starts with default price being shown, but no information of current pricing is given (average would be fine).  Clicking on reset - seemingly does nothing, but it may actually be doing something (changing all the prices to default) but we can't see it happening.

It takes opening several tabs to determine where the pricing is (vs. default).  And if any changes are made, it takes another opening of the tab to verify that the changes were made.  We basically don't see anything useful on the Destination View pricing, rendering it either useless or an exercise in utter frustration.
Title: Re: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: JumboShrimp on June 01, 2016, 05:38:35 PM
Something as simple picture below would do the job, with zero confusion on the part of the player.

Also, one slight annoyance on Destination View:  When player closes the pricing pop-up, the Destination View refreshes, which causes player to lose place where he was.  Not refreshing would be preferable.
Title: Re: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: JumboShrimp on June 29, 2017, 10:57:49 PM
I venture to guess that between 99% and 100% of pricing between 2 destinations in the system is all the same.

We are told that we can't have a functioning system between 2 destinations because of this < 1% of oddball pricing, half of which is unintentional (additional route started at default).

I think this should be fixed, and the system should have at least ONE fully functioning price management screen - the Destination View pricing.  Something above would work, or a better design would be welcome.

The key features of functioning pricing system:
1. Display current price (as percentage of default).  Without this everything else is completely useless.
2. Allow reset to default, with instant feedback to show it was done.  We never know when the price adjustment was actually done, partly because of #1
3. Allow price changes from default, again with instant feedback.
4. On Destination View, do not refresh the view after pricing change completes.  None of the fields displayed change as result of the pricing change.  The only thing refresh achieves is that player loses track as far as where he was.

If we have 1 functioning pricing screen, it would go a long way to making the pricing functional.

Even if other broken pricing screens, such as:
- Route planning (Airport ABC-XYZ) -> Price Management
- Single route price management from Manage Route screen
- Edit Route
are left broken, or to allow extreme masochists to tinker on these screens.
Title: Re: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: duscatu on January 04, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
Sami, please see this topic I started without seeing Jumbo's: https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,75047.0.html (https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,75047.0.html)

Same idea...
Title: Re: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: NovemberCharlie on January 04, 2018, 07:11:53 PM
I think we should work to a system where price changes are mainly done out of the price management screen.
As all of us probably know airline ticket prices are extremely variable.
I actually encountered a really interesting video on YouTube talking about some details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hlr-E7KA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72hlr-E7KA0)

Though I do not expect the game to enter this level of detail. I think we should have more capabilities for revenue management.
Basically an advanced filter system on the price management page. Filters could include:
- Base airport
- Load factor, separate for cargo and pax
- Supply/demand ratio
- Aircraft type

In this system inflation can be automatically corrected. A global settings option to autocorrect for inflation and a manual option in the price management page.

Also, even in the current system doesn't revenue management sound better? Since we have all these fancy things such as balance sheet/cashflow/income statement.
Maybe it's just me but it sounds more professional.
Title: Re: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: MuzhikRB on January 04, 2018, 08:08:22 PM
It will be very useful if the current ticket price will look like this:

Example: 425 usd (+ 25%) * to route default
Or 324 usd (-18%) * to route default
Title: Re: Feature Request: Destination View Pricing
Post by: wasgehtdichdasan on July 22, 2019, 08:02:45 PM
something new on this?