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Title: Base Pricing
Post by: ChuckPerry on June 26, 2014, 07:59:46 PM
Hey Guys.. A question I haven't been able to find the answer to.... Is it possible to raise (or lower) fares across the board for only 1 base without affecting the rest of your bases?  If so, how do you do this?  Thanks 
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Sami on June 26, 2014, 08:39:34 PM
If don't have that many routes, then Manage Routes -> select proper base from the filters -> check all routes -> manage prices from the bottom dropdown menu.

If you have many many pages of routes there, then it's rather time consuming, but you can also utilize the filters in conjuction with the manage routes page's 'destination view' which makes the lists much shorter.

Better price management is coming later .. But the new filters and stuff are quite powerful already.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: ChuckPerry on June 26, 2014, 10:18:49 PM
Thanks Sami
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Air Catalunya on July 15, 2014, 08:39:04 AM
When going to Routes / Destination view / and clicking the "dollar" button to adjust prices, the prices provided are not the current prices but the "reset" prices, it do not know if it is a bug. It makes it useless as you can't manage properly from there. You have to get inside route specifications, check the price and then adjust it thru the general price management tool.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: LotusAirways on July 15, 2014, 05:29:49 PM
Julien,
It is not a bug... and as you put it, it is useless managing prices without knowing --at least-- what the default price and current prices are.

Sami as been working on it for some time and I think I am not to far off to say that sooner or later (this year?) we will be able to:

- macro manage by (1) selecting the routes we want to change price according with load factors --say all routes above 98% LF-- and/or (2) selecting the routes according to bases;
- we will also be able to micro manage a route by having all info necessary to make a decision on the same screen, mainly (1) current LF, (2) current price, (3) default price, (4) supply, (5) demand, (6) competition average price.   

Wishful thinking? I think not.
LA
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Air Catalunya on July 17, 2014, 05:25:43 PM
Hey !
Thanx a lot for the answer. It is clear for me know !
Well, as you seem to be pretty well informed  8) I have another question for you !
> from what I got, 4 kinds of discounts exists buying planes :
1/ launch customer discount which is always 10% off when leasing/buying 5 aircrafts or more within a year after launching
2/ up to 20% when leasing/buying quantities
3/ up to 6% when downpayments for aircrafts are 100%
4/ up to 8% when leased for 15 years
Total discount is then 36% for direct buyings and 38% for leasing

What I can't find is the consistency of those discounts. Let's say I first lease 100 aircrafts, as a launch customer, for 15 years, total 38% discount, if I change, afterwards, any specification of the plane : motors, model (switching for example from B737-300 to B737-400...), is the discount will be calculated and remain the same ? Last case : if I switch from leasing to buying, the max. leasing time discount of 8% would be, I guess, canceled, but are the other ones remaining ?

Thanx a lot for your time !

Julien
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: LemonButt on July 17, 2014, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: LotusAirways on July 15, 2014, 05:29:49 PM
It is not a bug... and as you put it, it is useless managing prices without knowing --at least-- what the default price and current prices are.

No it isn't.  If you are looking at the destination view and see that a destination has a 95% load factor, you can click the $ icon and increase prices by a %.  If you are getting 95% load factors and charging $200, who cares if the default price is $100 or $300?  Being able to see the current price is $200 is irrelevant too because it is an arbitrary value.

However, if you are going to manage routes on a destination basis (which is most efficient IMO) you should be pricing each route accordingly as you are opening them, which most players don't do.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Air Catalunya on July 17, 2014, 07:06:22 PM
Hey I agree with you, however, I realized the problem doing what you say.
Let's say I sell plane tickets from LGA to BOS, 150$, reset price being 90$, LF being 98%, when I go to the destination view, $ icon, the price provided is 90$. If I click on the "increase by 10%", new price will be 99$ instead of 165$. I made that for 50 destinations and profit dropped, that's how I realized the price provided was NOT the current used but the reset price.
To proporly increase prices, I have to get into the destination specifications, check the current price, increase/decrease it by the percentage I wish, then go to the pricing tool and copy the new price. I could do it directly from the destination specification if I did not have 1/2/3/4/5/6/7 schedulig which makes it longer.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Sami on July 17, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
Quote from: Julien on July 17, 2014, 07:06:22 PM
Let's say I sell plane tickets from LGA to BOS, 150$, reset price being 90$, LF being 98%, when I go to the destination view, $ icon, the price provided is 90$. If I click on the "increase by 10%", new price will be 99$ instead of 165$.

What? No.

Forget everything about the "default" price stuff when using the % adjustment tools. They are not related in any way. Percentage adjustment changes your current prices by the selected percentage amount.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: LemonButt on July 17, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
If you select from the green box and push submit, it will modify by %.  If you leave the change at 0%, it will use the absolute price values at the bottom and you need to use the red box.

sami--perhaps the UI could be improved so that if you change the dropdown to anything but 0%, the "Set prices manually" section is hidden?  I can see why players would be confused.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Air Catalunya on July 18, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
OK, thank you very much, I got it now. Perfectly. I was confused because the price shown in "set price manually" and the current selling price are not the same at all.
I was only using your red box icon. I won't use it anymore.
Perfect. Thanx !
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: Air Catalunya on July 18, 2014, 01:39:31 PM
By the way : it would be way more easier to understand if the price provided in "set price manually" was the current selling price of the airline.
On the side, would appear the "reset price".
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: LemonButt on July 18, 2014, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: Julien on July 18, 2014, 01:39:31 PM
By the way : it would be way more easier to understand if the price provided in "set price manually" was the current selling price of the airline.
On the side, would appear the "reset price".

In destination view, there could be many different values so having the current values wouldn't be current.
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: LotusAirways on July 18, 2014, 03:41:51 PM
Quote from: sami on July 17, 2014, 07:40:21 PMPercentage adjustment changes your current prices...

Say I have 2 routes and 2 prices. Which of the 2 does the system picks up?
LA
Title: Re: Base Pricing
Post by: JumboShrimp on July 18, 2014, 04:12:53 PM
If two flights have different price, and you change the price by a percentage, each flight will be increased by that percentage, and they will continue to be different.

You can reset to default (which will set both flights to the same price) and then apply the percentage change, if you want both prices to be the same...