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Title: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: streetking75 on January 21, 2014, 08:59:32 AM
Hi there,

anyone faceing problems as well that aircraft purchse are not shown in the income statement?

Thanks Streetking
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: dmoose42 on January 21, 2014, 09:09:42 AM
See the recent changes to the accounting system.  Purchased planes are no longer expenses on the income statement, but rather exchange one asset (cash) for another (aircraft).  You will see the purchase on the cash flow statement as a use of funds, as well as on the balance sheet.
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: QuiGonJinn on January 21, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
But why doesn´t purchasing a plane reduce the income tax???
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: dmoose42 on January 21, 2014, 09:24:38 PM
Instead of being a taxable expense on the day of purchase, instead the plane is depreciated over 25 years (for a new plane) to align the cost of acquiring the plane with the revenue from flying the plane.  This accounting treatment is closer to how real airlines account for their aircraft than the method used historically.
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: ezzeqiel on January 21, 2014, 10:15:17 PM
Quote from: QuiGonJinn on January 21, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
But why doesn´t purchasing a plane reduce the income tax???

Because you are not loosing money... you are just trading one asset (cash) for another (plane).
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: [SC] - King Kong on January 21, 2014, 11:21:28 PM
I do no depriciate my aircraft in 25 years. I wish to do that before the 2nd D check, at 16 years.....
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: dmoose42 on January 22, 2014, 12:47:53 AM
At the point of the sale it shouldn't really matter...

Example 1:

You pay $10m, it is depreciated to $5m and you sell it for $4, you get a $1m taxable loss + the $5m in depreciation for $6m in taxable expense

Example 2:

You pay $10m, it is depreciated to $0m, and you sell it for $4, you get a $4m taxable gain + the $10m in depreciation for $6m in taxable expense

The only difference is the timing of the taxes/taxable expense...
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: QuiGonJinn on January 22, 2014, 05:50:06 AM
Quote from: dmoose42 on January 21, 2014, 09:24:38 PM
Instead of being a taxable expense on the day of purchase, instead the plane is depreciated over 25 years (for a new plane) to align the cost of acquiring the plane with the revenue from flying the plane.  This accounting treatment is closer to how real airlines account for their aircraft than the method used historically.

That´s reasonable!

Thanks a lot!!!
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: streetking75 on January 22, 2014, 07:29:38 AM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Don't see purchased Aircraft in the Income Statement
Post by: JJP on January 22, 2014, 08:29:22 PM
Very nice, simple explanation.  Thanks, guys.  :)