I have reported to admin that one of the players is using a trademark in his livery... the admin (sami) has not replied to my message.
I ask why? Maybe because the offending player is an Elite member?
probably ;)
I heard a rumour that Sami never sleeps... sheeesh, as if... ;)
Can you please stop fielding ridiculous accusations against our alliance every other week, it really does get a bit annoying. If your new-found friends were so successful in washing your brain to hate us already, you might have the decency to not air that dirty laundry in public.
As in any other game, why should the administration reply to your message? They will do what is necessary to uphold the terms of use, there is no need to tell the reporter what action will be taken.
I am sure you would have enjoyed a particularly glamorous career in the GDR, they depended on people like you.
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 10, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
I ask why? Maybe because the offending player is an Elite member?
First of all, this comment is just ridiculous, and I'd suggest to stop making such falsified accusations and rumours immediately (!).
Anyway, the reported of the airline name/logo violation never gets any separate feedback, the (automated) admin message (if there is a violation) goes only to the player operating the airline, and he has then certain time to react before possible further actions are taken. (If something is reported via PM then I'd reply but these name/logo violations do not have such feature as it's not really necessary)
Is it me your going on about? As the livery is from a now defunct airline.
@jamier - NO. I don't even know your airline.
@ sami - yes it was sent by PM, so a common decency would be to at least reply to the message. Accusation...maybe... but if you are talking that I should stop making rumors, that means ... according to Merriam Wesbster: "talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source " ... so if you refer to such posting of mine as a rumor it must be then that I am not the first person saying that.
@ saftfrucht - you are just ridiculous with your suppositions... Administrators should reply because it is a common decency. And what is GDR? Global depository receipt? What do stocks of foreign companies traded on US stock exchange have to do with AWS?
Do you own the trademark? You seem very personally invested in this to get so bent out of shape over a trademark issue...
Quote from: LemonButt on November 10, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Do you own the trademark? You seem very personally invested in this to get so bent out of shape over a trademark issue...
No. Do
YOU? This thread was open to call in the attention of administrator(s) to the issue. With your reply you seem overly keen on defending a (to-you) unknown infringer.
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 10, 2013, 10:45:27 PM
No. Do YOU? This thread was open to call in the attention of administrator(s) to the issue. With your reply you seem overly keen on defending a (to-you) unknown infringer.
The problem here is you didn't even include any detail in your original post to even make it a true call to attention. What was the trademark? Who was the player? When did you report it? You instead threw around generalities and baseless accusations to slander an entire alliance (and sami who controls the entire site). You seem to have a vested interest in getting this trademark removed from the site or you have a grudge or personal agenda against one or more players. I'm not interested in defending anyone, especially a large organization with a trademark with an army of lawyers that can defend themselves. Your post, while it may have been posted with good intentions, amounts to nothing more than juvenile trolling and has been reinforced by the way this thread as progressed.
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 10, 2013, 10:32:29 PM
@jamier - NO. I don't even know your airline.
@ sami - yes it was sent by PM, so a common decency would be to at least reply to the message. Accusation...maybe... but if you are talking that I should stop making rumors, that means ... according to Merriam Wesbster: "talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source " ... so if you refer to such posting of mine as a rumor it must be then that I am not the first person saying that.
@ saftfrucht - you are just ridiculous with your suppositions... Administrators should reply because it is a common decency. And what is GDR? Global depository receipt? What do stocks of foreign companies traded on US stock exchange have to do with AWS?
So your first response to not getting a reply to a PM is not another PM but a public forum post lobbing accusations at the person who didn't answer you? Classy.... You did notice that sami is on a 6 hour time difference from you?
At the risk of infringing the copyright held by Monty Python *:
Stop it! this is getting far too silly!
I thank you.
*legal disclaimer : this phrase is used in tribute to a fine bunch of comedians, no intent to profit from its use is implied or intended, nor is any claim made regarding original authorship claimed implied intended or implicit in this post. Lastly : the fish.
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 10, 2013, 10:32:29 PM
@ sami - yes it was sent by PM, so a common decency would be to at least reply to the message
Okay, well all airline reports should go via the report page (on airline info page) anyway.
I've had quite a bit of PMs lately with many of other things to do. I did look this up already when it was received, but it was only about livery having a website URL mentioned on the side of the plane, so basically - nothing. So it was looked, nothing to act on, but forgot to reply I see, sorry for that.
Ok, If the company in question somehow out of the blue sky finds out and contacts you, don't say I haven't brought this up to your attention.
Hah, okay, first of all, a regular URL is not a trademark. (it can be (if the company name is in domain name format and they specifically register the mark) but it generally isn't, so there is absolutely no issue here)
And I really don't understand why you are trying to make a such a big deal of such tiny little thing, which isn't a thing at all really. Especially since you have started earlier another public bashing thread of the same airline in question.. So it's not very appropriate behaviour, and don't know what's your thing or goal here, but I'd advise to stop it.
Let's just leave it at that... Stupid me, I should have known... I am a member of some online communities and forums, and I should have known better, because it's the same story everywhere, old timers get more leeway then new guys. It happens in places where I have been for years, so it's just logical it happens here as well... anyway, I won't mention this any more.
I see you still did not understand what I was saying. There is no favoritism or advantage for the "old guys" here in this case, even though you'd seem to imagine in such a way.
There is nothing wrong in that livery you reported. Your complaint was that he has printed a "trademarked address" (= a www address) of some company to his livery (very small font), but a simple web address is not generally a trademark and this particular address isn't either (you can look it up yourself too). So there is no case AT ALL.
(Are you upset because the airline in question has a base where your HQ is, and you are trying to play the game by "politics" through this and the other (now renamed/locked) thread, or what/why? Please don't, as it's not working. Sure, complaints are investigated, if they are reasonable.)
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 10, 2013, 11:47:20 PM
Let's just leave it at that... Stupid me, I should have known... I am a member of some online communities and forums, and I should have known better, because it's the same story everywhere, old timers get more leeway then new guys. It happens in places where I have been for years, so it's just logical it happens here as well... anyway, I won't mention this any more.
Dude...seriously...play your game and quit crying.
Quote from: JetWestInc on November 10, 2013, 11:56:12 PM
Dude...seriously...play your game and quit crying.
Did I ask >> YOU << something or did I ask for YOUR opinion?
By posting in public it's an open invitation for people to comment, especially when you fling false accusations about....again !
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 11, 2013, 12:20:47 AM
Did I ask >> YOU << something or did I ask for YOUR opinion?
you posted in the general forum which is, amazingly, intended for posts for general discussion and comment : so, yes, by doing so, you did ask for something and/or opinions... general means its inclusive so, yep, it includes him too...
Quote from: Wile E Coyote on November 11, 2013, 12:28:58 AM
By posting in public it's an open invitation for people to comment, especially when you fling false accusations about....again !
Thank you.
Quote from: brique on November 11, 2013, 12:30:21 AM
you posted in the general forum which is, amazingly, intended for posts for general discussion and comment : so, yes, by doing so, you did ask for something and/or opinions... general means its inclusive so, yep, it includes him too...
And thank you!
Quote from: rubiohiguey on November 11, 2013, 12:20:47 AM
Did I ask >> YOU << something or did I ask for YOUR opinion?
Please refer to my first post.
Don
PS....I am not used to those outside of Elite being on my side...how wrong does someone have to be for me to not be the bad guy?! :)
The OP has received his reply. No reason for this to remain open and draw any additional unneeded commentary.