AirwaySim

General forums => General forum => Topic started by: Karl on March 18, 2013, 11:52:23 AM

Title: Automatic Lease Renewal?
Post by: Karl on March 18, 2013, 11:52:23 AM
I need to cancel an aircraft lease.

On the "settings" page, I have checked the box to automatically renew leases for one year.

However, for the individual aircraft I do not want to extend, I have selected the option to NOT renew.  The red X has appeared.

Will the lease end and the aircraft be removed from my fleet, OR will the "automatic" option over ride the cancel?  In other words, do I have to manually cancel the lease (for the required penalty)?
Title: Re: Automatic Rease Renewal?
Post by: mamba on March 18, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
I think you have to wait for the mandatory period of the lease to pass, after which the (Terminate Lease) option appears on the aircraft page.
Title: Re: Automatic Rease Renewal?
Post by: mamba on March 18, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
Unfortunately, you would have to pay 50% of the remaining lease cost.
Title: Re: Automatic Rease Renewal?
Post by: JumboShrimp on March 18, 2013, 01:26:17 PM
Quote from: Karl on March 18, 2013, 11:52:23 AM
I need to cancel an aircraft lease.

On the "settings" page, I have checked the box to automatically renew leases for one year.

However, for the individual aircraft I do not want to extend, I have selected the option to NOT renew.  The red X has appeared.

Will the lease end and the aircraft be removed from my fleet, OR will the "automatic" option over ride the cancel?  In other words, do I have to manually cancel the lease (for the required penalty)?

No, the aircraft with red X will not renew automatically, it will disappear (will be returned to lessor) at the end of the lease period.
Title: Re: Automatic Rease Renewal?
Post by: Karl on March 18, 2013, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: JumboShrimp on March 18, 2013, 01:26:17 PM
No, the aircraft with red X will not renew automatically, it will disappear (will be returned to lessor) at the end of the lease period.

This is what I hope will happen. 
Title: Re: Automatic Lease Renewal?
Post by: Silentlysailing on March 18, 2013, 02:55:28 PM
Yeah, the aircraft will be returned at the end of the lease period but the routes for the aircraft will still exist. So you can either re assign the routes to a different one or close the routes and use some of the slots at your base airport.
Title: Re: Automatic Lease Renewal?
Post by: Karl on March 18, 2013, 09:56:50 PM
Thanks. 

The routes have already been assigned to new aircraft.  The old aircraft have just a few weeks remaining on their original leases.  The button to NOT renew has been checked.  When every dollar is critical, why waste it on cancelling a contract a few weeks early when it is not necessary.

Question answered. 

Thanks.   :D
Title: Re: Automatic Lease Renewal?
Post by: JumboShrimp on March 18, 2013, 10:01:07 PM
Quote from: Karl on March 18, 2013, 09:56:50 PM
Thanks.  

The routes have already been assigned to new aircraft.  The old aircraft have just a few weeks remaining on their original leases.  The button to NOT renew has been checked.  When every dollar is critical, why waste it on cancelling a contract a few weeks early when it is not necessary.

Question answered.  

Thanks.   :D

Let me add one thing:

If the aircraft is no longer flying, you are still 100% of remaining lease.  When you terminate, termination fee is only 50% of the remaining lease.  So you save some money by terminating lease of an idle aircraft you intend to get rid off...
Title: Re: Automatic Lease Renewal?
Post by: Karl on March 19, 2013, 12:10:38 AM
Quote from: JumboShrimp on March 18, 2013, 10:01:07 PM
Let me add one thing:

If the aircraft is no longer flying, you are still 100% of remaining lease.  When you terminate, termination fee is only 50% of the remaining lease.  So you save some money by terminating lease of an idle aircraft you intend to get rid off...


Good advice.  Thanks.  I was being penny wise and pound foolish.  Now, I see that an aircraft sitting idle cost $x.xx per week.  That cost x the number of weeks would cost much more than cancelling the lease. 

The only down side is that a cancellation is a one-time hit to the bottom line.  Fortunately, my bottom line is healthy enough to take the hit.

So, the cancelling bite is better than a long-term smaller, but eventually more costly bite.

Thanks to all.