To increase the motivation of players, would that be possible to add a "Hall of Fame" area at section such as the Dashboard as a token of appreciation to the top three (or maybe ten) airlines who are the most successful till the end of a certain game? Information of the top airlines such as number of a/c and routes can be provided for other players as a reference of whether joining the game at the same level in the future. Please consider, thanks! :)
AWS is a sandbox game so how would you define success? Most pax carried? Biggest profit margin? Highest company value? Most destinations served?
just like various kinds of data shown in the "statistics" section of dashboard
Quote from: LemonButt on September 13, 2012, 03:30:05 PM
AWS is a sandbox game so how would you define success? Most pax carried? Biggest profit margin? Highest company value? Most destinations served?
Any/all of the above could work.
Such as a listing of the top 10 airlines of all time in CV, then top 10 most pax carried, then top 10 most destinations, top 10 richest CEO, etc.
And top 10 Biggest profit margin could also work, and give people a reason to actually try to make money instead of piling up fake losses for tax evasion.
It might have to be categorized by Era (top 5 jet age, top 5 DOTM, top 5 MT, etc.) due to inflation and demand growth, otherwise all the top airlines will be MT.
I would like to also see a 'Hall of Shame' : but with the bottom 5 in each category : give us small-bird flyers something to aim for too :)
Quote from: brique on September 13, 2012, 04:45:30 PM
I would like to also see a 'Hall of Shame' : but with the bottom 5 in each category : give us small-bird flyers something to aim for too :)
Actually there could be a HOF catergory for "most <19 seat aircraft in operation"
No, thanks, I don't need another Hall of Fame containing mainly my nick. I'm too modest for that.
Quote from: Curse on September 13, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
No, thanks, I don't need another Hall of Fame containing mainly my nick. I'm too modest for that.
Lol... love it
+1
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We already have enough statistics available on the dashboard. We don't need something shouting "look who made the most money" at us. It's easy enough to find already.
If you want to toot your own horn, that's what the news releases function is for.
Quote[We already have enough statistics available on the dashboard. We don't need something shouting "look who made the most money" at us. It's easy enough to find already.]
Exactly, more categories...
I think if there was an algorithm created to create an "efficiency score" that would include all of the factors, this could be a good idea. Efficiency would include fleet utilization, pax per flight, profit margins, and a whole slew of other stats, much like a QB rating in football where you max out categories. So if the max score is 100, you can only get 5 points for fleet utilization, 5 points for profit margin, etc. Of course there would be several numbers after the decimal, but this would be the only way to really compare apples to apples in terms of hall of fame across all game worlds.
We know that's not a perfect stat, but it's a leader to be sure... not just about yards lol
Quote from: tvdan1043 on September 15, 2012, 10:45:11 PM
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We already have enough statistics available on the dashboard. We don't need something shouting "look who made the most money" at us. It's easy enough to find already.
If you want to toot your own horn, that's what the news releases function is for.
-(-1).
All those stats disappear forever at the end of the game. The hall of fame is a historical ranking across multiple games.
Quote from: EsquireFlyer on September 16, 2012, 12:06:02 AM
-(-1).
All those stats disappear forever at the end of the game. The hall of fame is a historical ranking across multiple games.
We used to have those end-game stats back in the day. You could log back in to a finished game world and look at everyone's stats.
Dunno why Sami stopped that...
Talentz
I would just love to be able to see my old airlines and remember which airports and gameworlds ive played. if all the data was sorted somewhere as a hall of fame it would be even more fun. I think this would make players go through the effort to play until the game ends as it would leave a small but still.. a mark. It would also work as a curriculum for the players applying for alliance memberships.
+1 to the hall of fame.
Even better, leave old games on the server indefinitely, maybe somehow viewable by everyone...
Quote from: Talentz on September 16, 2012, 05:39:55 AM
We used to have those end-game stats back in the day. You could log back in to a finished game world and look at everyone's stats.
Dunno why Sami stopped that...
They have not gone anywhere. End-game stats are visible for about a month after it has ended.
Quote from: sami on September 20, 2012, 11:34:38 AM
They have not gone anywhere. End-game stats are visible for about a month after it has ended.
Does that mean the stats are stored forever or get deleted after a month?
Talentz
By far the worst aspect of the game that long term players cannot see stats and achievements of previous games.
It would dramatically improve the game to have a player historical stats, and hall of fame for all time records.
I would love to be able to see how I did in MT3, and who has had the largest CV in any MT world etc etc and obviously so would many others as the support for this feature from players is overwhelming.
Without it games, and all the effort / money spent on them, become just a distant memory far to soon.
+1
Quote from: SAC on September 21, 2012, 07:16:13 AM
By far the worst aspect of the game that long term players cannot see stats and achievements of previous games.
It would dramatically improve the game to have a player historical stats, and hall of fame for all time records.
I would love to be able to see how I did in MT3, and who has had the largest CV in any MT world etc etc and obviously so would many others as the support for this feature from players is overwhelming.
Without it games, and all the effort / money spent on them, become just a distant memory far to soon.
Yes! the discussion is over... we need a
feature request!
SAC, I choose you!!
:laugh:
Talentz
...SAC puts tin hat on and ducks ;)
Seriously though, I am sure I have raised this as a feature request many many moons ago.
Will have a search and bump it.
After the thread develops I think it's time for a serious answer.
Installing some kind of achievement system (or Hall of Fame or whatever you want to call it) in a new game might be a nice thing. But installing it as a feature in an old game sucks - just to speak about me it destroyed my fun on World of Warcraft.
Why is this?
Because people achieved things in the past and, maybe due to personal goals (a good regional airline, only Russian aircraft etc.) or personal circumstances (new job, new relationship), aren't able to achieve them anymore.
What they achived is lost and is maybe replaced by someone who isn't really #1 or #2, but #1 or #2 after the system was installed.
People who put lots of time into the game are most likely those who wants to see what they already achieved - most likely because they are often in good positions at the statistics. Also those enthusiasts are affected most by the problem of forgotten achievements.
Another big point is the purpose of the game. AirwaySim is a sandbox game and the statics, as I pointed out several times in the past, suck.
1) Is the airline of someone who plays an original Soviet airline with Soviet aircraft less worthy than some pro running an easymode airline out of Heathrow or Atlanta?
Success is nothing one can put in nice and fancy statistics. Bankruptcy is also not a point of success. I saw clear #1 airlines BK because of boredom, running out of credits or the owner needed to go on a longer business trip.
2) The current ingame statistics can be manipulated very easily. An airline out of Los Angeles or Singapore will always be able to dominate Available Seat Kilometres as well as Revenue Seat Kilometres, even it has not 30% of the profit and revenue of an airline with much smaller numbers in this.
Load Factor and profit margin mostly goes to small airlines, out of airports with less or no competition. I barely saw a big airline in this.
Richest airline CEO is based on salary level of the country the airline is from. Example: I spend maximum CEO money from day 1. But on #1 in the statistics with over 1/3 more money is some random dude running an airline not even 10% as big and rich as mine - but he's out of a high salary country.
Honestly I think the best way at the moment to say if someone is successful or not is taking a look at the Bug forums and other posts about helping others and bringing the game forward.
Maybe sami should make a Hall of Fame for people who reported Bugs he was able to recognize and fix or people who really help people over a longer time like Talentz or Sigma.
However, if you stay at your ingame Hall of Fame thing, I'll stay at this: https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,43021.msg234055.html#msg234055
Im sure everyone old enough to play the game understands that statistics is just a tiny indicator of the complete image of a company. I think what we want is not just for getting the rights of bragging but to have something to remember achievements for a personal record and interprete whichever statistic we find is important. I doubt anyone sits home whining because they are not winning highest value of DOTM.
So much that could be done with a feature like this and it would be fairly easy too.