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Title: Load Factor % question
Post by: Airbus101 on June 15, 2012, 03:53:29 PM
Does anyone know if a LOW load factor AVERAGE affects anything else in game.

I try to max out my schedules and if a plane makes any profit on the additional leg I keep it,
this however takes my 75% load factor to 43% average. sometimes lower.

I'm unclear if scrounging and packing the schedule for what seems to be positive couch change
is actually hurting me thru some unknown mechanics of the game.


Facts in question, my main daytime lines and normal nights are above 70%
but my fill the hole routes average 18%-25% and make tiny profits
thus all my planes end up with 40-60% average LF's



Any help???
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: irro on June 15, 2012, 04:51:10 PM
Alot of it is going to depend on your Route Image.  If its low.. like below 50 give it a few real time days to improve
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: JumboShrimp on June 15, 2012, 04:56:49 PM
Lower "Average" LF due to some night flights does not affect anything else negatively.
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: brique on June 15, 2012, 05:07:12 PM
I asked a question from a slightly different angle re; load factor and it seems that LF itself does nothing good or bad, it is just the outcome of other factors, such as CI, RI, competition on route, frequency, etc, which determine how many of yr available seats on a particular flight end up with paying rears on them.

So, I guess its a quick overall guide to how well you are doing filling ALL yr flights, then, on a specific level, how each route or aircraft is doing, but in itself, it does not determine anything, but if its high, you can assume you got the CI/RI, price , etc in the right zone, low and you may need to see if its systemic, e.g. yr CI is rubbish, or just the effect of running other-wise profitable fill-in flights, in which case no harm is being done by it.
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: exchlbg on June 15, 2012, 05:31:51 PM
The percentage itself doesn´t do anything but tell you the plane was full or empty.
It´s all abot money.Does your aircraft with it´s routes bring in the money you are spending?
Please consider also C- (or even D-) checks, marketing, staff wages, staff training and base rent, which are to be calculated on top of the airplane survey provided by system.

greetings
Christian
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: Airbus101 on June 15, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
All routes in question are 100% route image and normal pricing
Well, I'm assuming I'm already paying for the staff, for this additional leg as they are on payroll.
the route info after fuel and other costs is green

its not a question of what generates Load Factor,  just if the game is using my load factor to
adjust other numbers,
 


as I'm flying a 48 seaters into a places that have only 20 passengers its  at 46% load factor, but I got ALL the passengers.
and making a small profit.  I just want to make sure that I'm not overlooking a coding quirk that's kicking me in the head.
again these are just the gap fillers for my real schedule


trying to avoid costly errors
like when I reconfigured all my seats after taking the orders and causing yet an additional cost and delay.
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: exchlbg on June 16, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
It´s been answered a few times now.The load factor figure is just a report, it is not coded to something else. It is very hard to really evaluate to the last cent if a route pair is really paying off, one thing that is effected by a new destination is marketing.
To really find out you would have to monitor all overhead costs before and after opening a new route.
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: Sami on June 16, 2012, 01:24:25 PM
As said, load factor is only a statistic - the end result what you see (what % of seats you have sold). It is not something that the system actively calculates when distributing the passengers etc. and not a figure that is used in anythng else. It is just a way to display your sales results.
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: Airbus101 on June 16, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Thank you all for all the answers, appreciate the time...

my second post was just to clarify what I was asking as my original question was poorly asked.


I got it now, I'll have many more as search is just not finding them.
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: Troxartas86 on June 17, 2012, 04:32:38 AM
I was flying two people a night just over 50 miles in Jet Age once, made me an average of $50 with a CV-240.  ;D
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: alfkan on June 17, 2012, 11:17:31 PM
[/i]I was flying two people a night just over 50 miles in Jet Age once, made me an average of $50 with a CV-240.  Grin

Did it pay off? :-\
Title: Re: Load Factor % question
Post by: esquireflyer on June 18, 2012, 07:33:09 AM
Quote from: Airbus101 on June 15, 2012, 10:34:05 PM
All routes in question are 100% route image and normal pricing
Well, I'm assuming I'm already paying for the staff, for this additional leg as they are on payroll.
the route info after fuel and other costs is green

No, you need more staff when you add additional flights (such as gap fillers), since you can't make the same pilots who just flew a longhaul also fly a gapfiller (think of it as "the crew times out"). So, if you are only breaking even (or making very little) on a gapfiller route, you may well be losing money after accounting for staff costs.