80 planes strong, still 10 on order, with a seemingly limitless (almost) room for expansion.
Was rocky for a while growing. I now own 40% of my fleet, buying up leased aircraft as they expire.
If I could open 10 more bases at the same time I would...
Thanks for a great game Sami!
Please do tell! What does your fleet look like? How long did it take you to start turning a "decent" profit? I'm currently trying to do the same with EMB-120's got 2 lease and 6 on order (operational lease). Right now with the 2 flying all but a few hours out of the 24hr day it does not look so promising......Maybe it gets better once the new orders start coming in?
I was probably at around 10 aircraft before regular strong profits started coming in.
Bear in mind, this is in the Jet Age game, flying Hawker Siddely 748's At 55 Pax/plane.
Currently I have only a one type fleet... presently at 92 HS748's and growing!
In Jet Age, everything is possible.
No thrills here.
Try a fleet of 30 seater AC's in a MT scenario.
Quote from: Maarten Otto on December 13, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
No thrills here.
Try a fleet of 30 seater AC's in a MT scenario.
I am currently doing this, I have a fleet of 3 with 5 more on order (EMB-120) One is making me 136,986 and the other 109,436 with the 3rd just arriving. Oh, and I'm in the hole -272,154....All pretty much flying into airports with no slot fee's and scheduled to the max 3-4 hours on non-flying time a day for each. I'll findout where this takes me, so far not looking too good.....
Quote from: Maarten Otto on December 13, 2011, 03:28:16 PM
No thrills here.
Try a fleet of 30 seater AC's in a MT scenario.
I am doing the same with 19 seaters in MT6, I currently have a fleet of 4 with 2 on order and am currently loosing around 100k per week. The losses do seem to decline as I add ac, was about 160k with 2 ac. We will see what happens!
There is a guy at KSFO in MT6 (Blue Horizon) running 4 EMB-120's (30 pax) that seems to be doing ok, at least for now...
fuel prices are low at the moment.
It is tough! I never really had the desire to fly big planes, I do like the little ones I dream of the day of running a profitable B1900 fleet. It seems impossible though, anything below 50 seats I don't think they'll ever really get ahead....
Ok, positive update. I'm actually climbing out of the hole I went from 271K to 141K in the hole......I'll see how bad it'll be once the end of the month hits........
the problem with Airwaysim has always been massively unrealistic maintenance costs for light airplanes... C Checks on a DH6 costing the same as much large airplanes
Quote from: vectorforfood on December 15, 2011, 02:46:20 PM
the problem with Airwaysim has always been massively unrealistic maintenance costs for light airplanes... C Checks on a DH6 costing the same as much large airplanes
Surely this is an incredibly easy problem to fix?
Anything aviation related is expensive in real life though. Even for a Pa-28 a new anti-collision light is like £500. Let alone new instruments for the dashboard... the mechanical ones cost above the roof it's cheaper to put in a G1000. Not easy for small groups of owners of light aircraft.
Quote from: vectorforfood on December 15, 2011, 02:46:20 PM
the problem with Airwaysim has always been massively unrealistic maintenance costs for light airplanes... C Checks on a DH6 costing the same as much large airplanes
No... Your biggest problem is the level of staff required which is calculated per plane, and not per number of seats available to the public.
Here are some views of my Embrear120 venture:
Airline size:
(https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg41.imageshack.us%2Fimg41%2F5562%2Fairliner.png&hash=6cdcb7ac4294b7b65ec40dbaa1e4839c7f233ce1) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/airliner.png/)
And ridiculous staff levels which killed the business.
(https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.imageshack.us%2Fimg13%2F3923%2Fstaffxl.png&hash=b2b31bb3cb49384b5b1bb9c1ed8f465453fff49f) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/staffxl.png/)
Quote from: vectorforfood on December 13, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
I was probably at around 10 aircraft before regular strong profits started coming in.
Bear in mind, this is in the Jet Age game, flying Hawker Siddely 748's At 55 Pax/plane.
Currently I have only a one type fleet... presently at 92 HS748's and growing!
I usually fly a fleet of Fokker F27 turboprops with just 40pax/plane and switch over to a Fokker F28 jet fleet with 50 seats in the '70s. Both are operating fine with good profits :laugh: ;D
I am trying to build an all-Fokker airline in DOTM3. I'm based in CTA and then opened hubs in BLQ and recently NAP. As you can see, staff expenses are huge, but still I can make ~2.5 millions/week and (considering I have bad RI and so LF on my routes from NAP) this will grow in the following weeks, being enough to keep on expanding.
My biggest problem is with slots shortage... even if I am "hoarding" a lot of slots (67.64% of slots and 55.87% market share in CTA, 61.57% of slots and 61.32% market share in BLQ, 42.49% of slots and 28.68% market share in NAP), there are still too few and it looks like they increase exactly when I don't have any available plane to use them! :)
Any suggestion regarding a replacement for my F.27s and F.28s in the next 5-15 years is welcome! :)
F50 and F100 or BAe 146 8)
Quote from: alexgv1 on December 16, 2011, 01:37:55 AM
F50 and F100 or BAe 146 8)
F50 just out... and just ordered the first 25! :)
I'm happily running a fleet of 6 DHC6 in DoTM with a 8% profit margin and made tons of cash with 5 DHC8-100s in MT nearly right from the get go. One reason might be using used planes instead of new ones - probably couldn't afford those leasing costs...
Not to mention cheap fuel... ;)
in terms of props the Dash 8-400 is king for me lol.