What if Android and iPhone users could install an AWS app to simplify access into account and airline management system? Seems that this app would be popular between AirwaySim members and smart-phone users
Please do a search on forum.
(basic question; why you'd need an app just because it's trendy, since it works mostly with the browser too (OK.. some things still need tuning)? and creating such is a major task.)
No! Cause i don't have a smartphone!!!! >:( >:( >:(
Just kidding. Its a good idea, i don't know much of producing apps, but i don't think Sami has the capacity to both improve the game itself on computer and then also produce and maintain an app.
I think I can help with developing app for Android :-[
You'll still have to maintain it, you have to keep it synced with the webbrowser based and the gameserver, you have to have all the game's aspects in that app aswell.
Im no computer geek, but i believe that's how you say it. :-[
I can lease/buy new aircraft via the mobile version.
That's all I do when I'm at work and want to keep an eye on my airline. For me the mobile version of the game is OK as it is.
Well... just offered
Quote from: sami on July 29, 2011, 09:18:30 AM
Please do a search on forum.
(basic question; why you'd need an app just because it's trendy, since it works mostly with the browser too (OK.. some things still need tuning)? and creating such is a major task.)
I agree with Sami. In the good old days, we had one piece of software called a web browser that allowed us to look at and use millions of websites. Now greedy hardware manufacturers and commercial software developers are desperately trying to make us have thousands of different pieces of software to do precisely what one did before, but allow them control over what we the user look at (eg Apple and Flash). Madness.
MD
Quote from: MidlandDeltic on July 29, 2011, 04:44:22 PM
I agree with Sami. In the good old days, we had one piece of software called a web browser that allowed us to look at and use millions of websites. Now greedy hardware manufacturers and commercial software developers are desperately trying to make us have thousands of different pieces of software to do precisely what one did before, but allow them control over what we the user look at (eg Apple and Flash). Madness.
MD
Because they are "cool" just like rubik cubes, tamagochi, pogs, flared jeans, platform heels, you know, just like all the pointless fads.
One could make the argument however, that if an "Airwaysim app" was made, it might increase the awareness about the sim. For instance if it was a top seller or a popular app, it would get listed as one of those apps and more attention would be drawn to the real site. Also, anyone searching 'airplane', 'airline' or 'simulation' while just searching the app store would bump into it.
I'm not sure if that is worth the time and money to develop such an app (I have no experience in developing software), but there would be several positives if one was created.
You think that people who type "airline" or "airplane" in search box of an app store are the type of people who have attention span to play a 5 month long game?
No. We do not need an "app". That's why this game works on, wait for it....., your BROWSER!
:P
The worst thing from the last five years is that 'there's an app for that' crap. You don't need an app for 95% of what you do in the world, especially AirwaySim! Why on Earth would we want Sami to take valuable time away from the game just to code an exact copy of what already exists just so people can be cool with an app?! I'd rather he (as he says himself) spend time optimising this game for mobile browsers. THAT would be a valuable use of everybody's time.
- infinity (wish my keyboard had an infinity symbol!! :laugh:)
Quote from: JumboShrimp on July 30, 2011, 12:43:28 AM
You think that people who type "airline" or "airplane" in search box of an app store are the type of people who have attention span to play a 5 month long game?
I guess I'm the first (and possibly only?) example...
Quote from: gadget2467 on July 30, 2011, 05:22:19 AM
I guess I'm the first (and possibly only?) example...
Don't know about first, but definitely not the only, I've been doing that as well ::)
Quote from: pascaly on July 30, 2011, 12:49:56 AM
No. We do not need an "app". That's why this game works on, wait for it....., your BROWSER!
:P
The worst thing from the last five years is that 'there's an app for that' crap. You don't need an app for 95% of what you do in the world, especially AirwaySim! Why on Earth would we want Sami to take valuable time away from the game just to code an exact copy of what already exists just so people can be cool with an app?! I'd rather he (as he says himself) spend time optimising this game for mobile browsers. THAT would be a valuable use of everybody's time.
- infinity (wish my keyboard had an infinity symbol!! :laugh:)
Actually, I wanted to offer to optimese a bit lo-fi AWS version, but in consequence I saw an idea of developing app.
And yes, you're right
Of course there could be an AirwaySim App that is better/easier to use on a smartphone with 3,2"-4,5" screen than the mobile version.
However, it would be very complicated to make and I think the audience is simply too small to make this.
But if you, Artem, want to make such a thing, you could contact sami directly (there's a contact formular on the AWS page or via PM) and ask him if you are allowed to do so.
I'm also a bit disappointed some people try to talk down every idea here. Nothing is fully wrong or fully right on the first look and I had to ask myself for more than just a second to find advantages that an App could have above the mobile version (for example: Easier route creating and scheduling).
If you can get something that works to find new route/demand, open it and schedule planes to it.... I would be happy to pay a few bugs for it. (those are the things that I find painstakingly terrible to do in the mobile version).
As a little contribution to us apple "victims" (in that case truly): is there some way you could (in the mobile version at least) change the graphs on the "route planning" screen to a non-falsh-based system?! Though I am close to jailbraking my iPod only for that sake anyways :P
Jona L.
Quote from: Jona L. on July 30, 2011, 04:55:27 PM
Though I am close to jailbraking my iPod only for that sake anyways :P
I hope you won't regret it...
Quote from: Jona L. on July 30, 2011, 04:55:27 PM
As a little contribution to us apple "victims" (in that case truly): is there some way you could (in the mobile version at least) change the graphs on the "route planning" screen to a non-falsh-based system?!
Go the easier way my friend and buy a good product that is able to use all current internet standards without actions and warranty loss - I suggest an Android phone :)
Quote from: Curse on July 30, 2011, 07:18:50 PM
Go the easier way my friend and buy a good product that is able to use all current internet standards without actions and warranty loss - I suggest an Android phone :)
Hmm, and let Google see your every key stroke and movement? No thanks!
MD
Quote from: MidlandDeltic on July 30, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
Hmm, and let Google see your every key stroke and movement? No thanks!
How is that so different compared to Apple? ::)
Quote from: MidlandDeltic on July 30, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
Hmm, and let Google see your every key stroke and movement? No thanks!
I'm sure people at Google have no better thing to do than watching what the great Curse is doing.
However, this should not be a problem for all the normal people out there. ;D
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wish my keyboard had an infinity symbol!! :laugh:
Dont despair, there's an app for that.
Quote from: MidlandDeltic on July 30, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
Hmm, and let Google see your every key stroke and movement? No thanks!
MD
Guess you didn't hear about the guy from the UK who was hit with a £400 data charge after a holiday in Europe despite having roaming turned off on his iPhone.
Why don't I get those bills then?
I go to foreighn countries a lot but never had a €450 for roaming.
Believe me, he was a dumb idiot, not read the SMS your Telco is providing
You when you cross a border and warns you for this.
Quote from: bleedfax18 on July 30, 2011, 09:12:01 PM
How is that so different compared to Apple? ::)
It's not - see my earlier post. I don't have an i$device either. I use a PC with Mozilla on Firefox for web access which gives me everthing several hundred so-called "apps" can. I use a phone to make calls and send texts. I have an old Palm pda which does what I want for hand held stuff far better than any "smart" phone can. I do not feel it necessary to have a device within 6 inches of my hand at all tmes just in case someone updates thier facebook status to tell me they've just aught a bus. Guess I'm a miserable old s*d!
MD
Quote from: mmcg on July 31, 2011, 01:49:44 AM
Guess you didn't hear about the guy from the UK who was hit with a £400 data charge after a holiday in Europe despite having roaming turned off on his iPhone.
Was the guy (a) the guy dumb enough not to read the instructions, or (b) is the process set p so as to be difficult to do so that the telco can go kerching! (With doubtless a portion going to Apple).
Much as I loathe Micro$oft, Apple and Google worry me far more. But we're drifting off topic.....
MD
What will happen if Google knows where are you now? Are you a CIA agent pursuiting by MI6? :D
If I have now all my calls listening by third persons should I use Nokia 3310 cell phone and while sleeping take out a battery from all phones. ;D ;D
All that doesn't stops me to use a smart-phone and use and develop Apps for them :)
We were speaking about AirwaySim App, not the way Google manages their systems and users ;)
I'm an Android app developer. Prime example of when apps are useful.
I made Glasgow Bus Finder (https://market.android.com/details?id=teamk.glasgowbusfinder) as an alternative to nextbuses.mobi (http://nextbuses.mobi). Yes, nextbuses is a website, but a lot less usable than the app I created (so my evaluations tell me). Particularly when you're away from a PC.
Apps are brilliant for when you're on the move. At home, I use a browser for AWS, but I hate using my mobile browser when I'm on the train and want to play a bit of AWS. The lo-fi version is good, but not as good as an app could be. It wouldn't replace the browser version, but could replace the lo-fi mobile browser version for a lot of people (including me).
I can certainly understand why Sami doesnt want to put his time into developing an app but I dont understand the rest of you being so against it. It wouldnt be anything more complicated than a preloaded shell with some quicker shortcuts to essential functions. Maybe one push for balance, one push for used market and one push for scheduling.
The mobile version is awesome but even if sometimes links are tiny to hit and you find yourself scrolling alot.
^^ +1
I have a Palm Pre which can not run Flash, so guess what? No computer, no new routes, no scheduling, cant even adjust a route as any change to the times or aircraft type locks it up. Same issues with both my Wife's Pre and a co-workers on a different network. I can read messages, try to lease planes, place orders, and monitor performance, but I can't "run" my airline the way I could if there was an app that made crucial functions accessible on my phone.
Aside from the fact that the above statement confirms me as an AWS addict, I would LOVE to see a Palm AWS App!
Don
Whilst a dedicated app would be nice, considering the new platform and the effort that would need to go into coding for it, it is probably not worth the effort.
I'd rather see a simplified mobile version of the site in browser format with larger fonts, bigger buttons etc ... at the moment, it is really difficult to hit the right buttons with any consistency. (Especially while driving fast on the highway.... :) )
Best Regards
Richard