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Title: Amount of seats on an international flight to breakeven.
Post by: forsberc on July 02, 2011, 10:57:14 AM
What is the average amount of seats required to "breakeven" on international, long haul flights? I am interested in several +4000nm routes, though they have around 60 average daily passengers. If I fly DC-86 or B703s, would these routes be viable? I know they won't be huge money makers, but as long as they don't loose money, I'm happy.

Anyone know about this?
Title: Re: Amount of seats on an international flight to breakeven.
Post by: alexgv1 on July 02, 2011, 11:17:35 AM
Which time era is this? I've heard in jet age times it's generally worth flying the long haul routes of 100+ pax.
Title: Re: Amount of seats on an international flight to breakeven.
Post by: forsberc on July 07, 2011, 07:56:25 AM
I am in Jet Age 4, though I wouldn't mind knowing what's true in the other worlds as well.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Amount of seats on an international flight to breakeven.
Post by: thedr2 on July 07, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
You probably could break even on those routes, but your margins would be very small.
Title: Re: Amount of seats on an international flight to breakeven.
Post by: schro on July 07, 2011, 01:36:47 PM
The breakeven point also depends greatly on the plane and current cost of fuel.

Since I like to maintain my margins rather than flying for net zero income, here's about what I'd consider:

Jet Age
- 150+ pax on a DC-8-60 series
DOTM
- 120+ pax on a 727-200Adv in a heavy premium config (3/20/120ish) (you can do 5000nm+ with a fuel stop)
- 140+ pax on a 727-200Adv in more standard config (15/144)
- 180+ (with at least 12 C class) on a 757-200
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