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Reports and Requests => Feature requests => Topic started by: naio90 on December 17, 2007, 10:09:37 PM

Title: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: naio90 on December 17, 2007, 10:09:37 PM
Could it be possible to create sudsidiaried lines? I mean, If I have a fleet that only flies domestic routes and other that makes Longhould routes, for bether administration, could it be possible to created like groups. Example:

Main: Alas Argentinas (International)
Fleet:
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Sub.: AAs National (Regional)
Fleet:
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Sub.: AAs Express (Special routes)
Fleet:
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The only difference betwen those lines is the organization in groups (Financial view of the groups, aircraft list)

Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Sami on December 17, 2007, 10:35:14 PM
What would be the exact advantage of this?
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: naio90 on December 17, 2007, 11:01:02 PM
a better overview of our fleet. If you have 250 aircrafts and you want to raise the prices of only the domestic flights it can be very hard to find them all.
It would be also nicer than only a button that does it. And you could see the balance of each group separatly.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Seattle on December 17, 2007, 11:23:21 PM
I like this Idea.

It would also be good for like having all economy or all business class.

and the customer ratings wont directly effect the main airline if the subsidery is good or bad.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: love_bus on December 18, 2007, 12:22:16 AM
Yup, a good example is Alitalia, and it's subsidary, Alitalia Express.

We should be able to make subs', but it should be restricted in what we can do. It would be a great feature, and very good one at that (especially in the 'realism' factor), but i really think their should be some sort of restriction when it comes to new Airline Ventures, as subsidaries can include seperate airlines.

Good example is Tiger Airways (LCC Based in Singapore), They fly from Singapore, have a Subsidary airline flying in Australia (Tiger Airways Australia) and are starting a new LCC Subsidary in Korea (Incheon Tiger or something like that).

Restrictions are needed, to protect other airlines from foriegn airlines seeking to make use of the home countries market... don't know how you could do that (Restrictions of frequencies? slots?)
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: naio90 on December 18, 2007, 03:00:12 AM
We should make it that the sub. the same HQ has as the main line... or at least you can choose a domestic hub for it, but im not sure if it would be good (Better only 1 HQ)... Like Lovebus says, it would kill smaller airlines...
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: love_bus on December 18, 2007, 03:13:12 AM
Well, HUBs should be restricted to Home Countries in the first place.

International HUB's should come under great restriction, as we all know that it can really effect other countries airlines (and in real life, they have restrictions and regulations regarding this anyway). Things can be used to fix this problem up, such as the foriegn airline can only own 49% of the airline (this means some form of partnership with another airline), Restictions on slots and hours/destinations etc... The list goes on.

Like Naio90 said, Subsidaries should be limited to the Home country, whilst International Subsidaries (Separately based airlines) should go under the "International HUB's rules".. All just my opinion though.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Seattle on December 18, 2007, 03:29:50 AM
*nods head* and repeats Love_bus. :)
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Timothi on December 22, 2007, 11:31:13 PM
Me likes the idea, would make the game real realistic as many airlines have subs for different reasons; domestic, regional, intercontinental.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: willvone on July 01, 2010, 03:21:57 PM
Yes this would add a great deal of realism and would be a fun aspect. +1
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: samomuransky on July 01, 2010, 03:44:19 PM
It would be great for financal statistics. +1
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on July 01, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
+1 for realism and ease of management....

(Love_Bus where have you been?!? you haven't been playing for a good year or two? ???)

Cheers,
ICEcold
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Kontio on July 01, 2010, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: ICEcold on July 01, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
(Love_Bus where have you been?!? you haven't been playing for a good year or two? ???)

This thread is from 2007.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on July 01, 2010, 04:25:52 PM
no wonder....  :laugh: :-[
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: antillesatlantique on July 07, 2010, 09:14:43 PM
I agree. If you start in the game with domestic/regional groups and later try to expand to international routes, the cost structures and yields of the two are very different. When conditions change (like fuel prices) it's important to be able to adjust prices. But the small/regional part of the airline is much more sensitive to price changes than the larger aircraft fleets so you have to adjust everything individually and the global price tool becomes useless.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Ansettaddict123 on July 09, 2010, 01:40:24 PM
Exactly, I think either this idea or seperate buttons for price settings on international/ domestic routes.
Like has been said, regional/domestic routes are far more price sensative than internationals; so it would be great to be able to differentiate between the two when setting prices.

I've always had the idea of when you need to reset prices to default (ie: fuel has gone up, so you will default all routes again) that you should be able to reset a portion of your routes, instead of the whole lot or setting route prices individually.
Maybe a check box sort of thing (like in the message inbox) and then a button down the bottom so you can target specific markets with price rises more easily:)

Im ranting:P
LOL
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Jona L. on July 10, 2010, 08:46:34 PM
generally:

+1 !

I think it's a great idea :)
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Filippo on July 14, 2010, 05:32:43 PM
+1 on subsidiaries where they can easily exchange aircraft and cash from one another!
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Seattle on July 14, 2010, 09:30:51 PM
Wow.... this thread is ancient. I feels like a totally different person wrote those comments... and not me. :laugh:

...and subsideries also for sure could lower costs.... for example, for many airlines, it would reduce costs to have only mainline planes flying for your main airline and only regionals for your subsidery airline.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on July 18, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Quote from: Seattle on July 14, 2010, 09:30:51 PM
...and subsideries also for sure could lower costs.... for example, for many airlines, it would reduce costs to have only mainline planes flying for your main airline and only regionals for your subsidery airline.

would totally help your costs! I've seen (and heard) airlines that have many different fleet types for different reasons, and they eventually go bust because the costs are too great. :P
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Maarten Otto on July 18, 2010, 03:27:09 PM
+1
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Wilkesy on August 16, 2010, 11:55:08 PM
+1

It will add some more realism to the game
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: T8KE0FF on August 17, 2010, 09:49:39 AM
+1
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: ArcherII on August 17, 2010, 10:11:37 AM
I think this could be implemented along with the connecting flights/traffic. I mean, you can have your subsidiary airline to bring more passengers to your long-haul domestic or international flights.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on October 25, 2010, 02:18:22 AM
+1 to what Archer said. ;)
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Maarten Otto on October 25, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
Hang on... I'm starting to see the point here... it's an attempt for world domination... I'm in....  8)

Opening Airline at airport A.
Opening hub at Airport B
Opening hub at Airport C
Opening hub at Airport D....

Opening sub airline at airport E
Opening Sub 2 at F


Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: JumboShrimp on October 25, 2010, 02:28:29 PM
That (world domination) with additional benefit of good fleet commonality.  I am guessing that one of the objectives is to keep small to medium aircraft / fleet types in the subsidiary lines...
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: [ATA] Sunbao on October 25, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
+1
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: GEnx on October 31, 2010, 11:17:32 AM
You could also implement different salary policies for each subsidiary. For example, KLM mainline B737 pilots earn more than their Transavia (KLM's low-cost airline) B737 colleagues. :) I very much like this idea, makes things much more manageable.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: MattDell on November 01, 2010, 11:47:53 PM
-1

I don't see the point.
Title: Re: Subsidiaries Lines
Post by: Sami on January 04, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
memo:
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,5464.0.html
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,18077.0.html
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,464.0.html