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General forums => Announcements => Topic started by: Sami on May 04, 2010, 10:09:32 PM

Title: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 04, 2010, 10:09:32 PM
It has come to our attention that there are connection problems between some users in USA and Canada and our servers. This has been visible with inability to access our servers or very slow response times or pages not loading propely occasionally.

After some investigation the cause is found in the global connections, or routing in other words, between the two continents (our servers are in Europe). The problem is not in our end, and there's nothing we can do about it presently unfortunately.

In detail the problems are in Cogent Co's servers / connections that relay the traffic between places and countries, and problems are especially visible to traffic from East/North US/Canada to West/North Europe, but other North American regions may be affected too. According to information found the problem has been identified and the good fellows at that mentioned company are fixing the issues but until that there may be up to 50% packet loss meaning quite bad connections to some areas of Europe.

So hopefully connections to EU area will be normal again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: MattDell on May 05, 2010, 02:14:45 AM
Works great from Hawaii, sami!
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on May 05, 2010, 02:17:11 AM
Quote from: MattDell on May 05, 2010, 02:14:45 AM
Works great from Hawaii, sami!

hence why he said east USA. ;) don't worry though. there are exceptions. I'm in Toronto, Canada and mine works fine. :)

ICEcold
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Jupiter on May 05, 2010, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: ICEcold on May 05, 2010, 02:17:11 AM
hence why he said east USA. ;) don't worry though. there are exceptions. I'm in Toronto, Canada and mine works fine. :)

ICEcold

bah. I'm in Toronto and mine fails badly. But my iPhone works fine...

Clearly what I've learned from this is I have no idea how the internet works. :)
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: schro on May 05, 2010, 02:42:04 AM
I'm in NC with no issues
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: wtdawg on May 05, 2010, 06:03:16 AM
O-H-I-O

Had problems most of the day, but much better now.  Appears to be running close to normal for me.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sigma on May 05, 2010, 06:48:01 AM
I've been experiencing the problems since about 6pm on Sunday evening and it's not gotten any better, hasn't changed appreciably depending where I've tried in the Central US either.

In the past 36 hours or so it's been occurring, I've tried connecting in areas around Omaha, Lincoln, Kansas City, Fort Worth, Las Vegas, and Denver.  Las Vegas was normal, all the other locations have been horrible with pages usually taking several attempts to load if they load at all.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: mideg on May 05, 2010, 08:48:45 AM
Maybe this helps in the understanding of the problem: the internet should be connected to location and ISP, hence the differences for some users between desktop PC and smartphone.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Maarten Otto on May 05, 2010, 10:10:58 AM
Quote from: Sigma on May 05, 2010, 06:48:01 AM
II've tried in  Omaha, Lincoln, Kansas City, Fort Worth, Las Vegas, and Denver. 
You got a teleporting machine or flying powder or what  ;D
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: mikk_13 on May 05, 2010, 10:35:09 AM
i know this may sound stupid and might not work, but try and turn your internet router off then back on. Every time you do this you get a new IP adress from your provider. I find sometimes i have problems like this, and i just reset the router and it seems to go fine after. You never know. Especially if the provider has changed some settings etc. A fresh connection might do the trick.

Also, delete all your internet browsing history, cookies, etc etc.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 05, 2010, 10:57:33 AM
Cookies, caches etc. are irrelevant. As the problem is between routing from us to you and not in the content our server has sent.

Also I doubt that the IP reset will help either because it is the routing that your ISP uses and they do go via the same companies usually. It all depends on the ISP and what routings they use, as pointed out before that while one user from Toronto has major problems and the other does not, they have a different ISP and thus use different routing.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on May 05, 2010, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Jupiter on May 05, 2010, 02:22:51 AMbah. I'm in Toronto and mine fails badly. But my iPhone works fine...

what part. Etobicoke right here and mine's fine. ;)
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: swiftus27 on May 05, 2010, 11:41:00 AM
Quote from: wtdawg on May 05, 2010, 06:03:16 AM
O-H-I-O

Had problems most of the day, but much better now.  Appears to be running close to normal for me.

Where in Ohio?  I've had NO problems all day.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: newboyonhere on May 05, 2010, 04:32:58 PM
I live in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan and both computers I work on have issues.  Yesterday page loading was very slow if the page would load at all.  Today page loading is better but the page isn't updated.  My bank balance just came up as February 8, 1988, I think, but then I go to manage routes and it gives me a date of early January.  A leased plane that was suppose to be delivered to me on January 17th is still sitting in aircraft on order screen.

comments Sami??
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 05, 2010, 04:43:30 PM
The problems are not at our end, as you can read from the first post. You are probably seeing partly loaded pages, old data, or anything between because those Cogent guys cannot seem to be able to fix their cables...

Some status updates here: http://status.slicehost.com/2010/5/4/cogent-network-issues
(not our host, but has best up-to-date information.. Cogent's own "network status" page or any other news do not say a word of their problems)


Checked your airline too - nothing unusual there, all planes delivered, routes flying normally, and $2.5mil cash. (nothing needing immediate attention)
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 05, 2010, 04:48:10 PM
Actually Cogent's status page was now updated and they finally have acknowledged their connection problems: http://status.cogentco.com/

Some tech-savvy users with problems accessing our site could follow the instructions and email them some debug data and information that they cannot reach this site properly.

That page also has a possible fix for the issue, but not sure if it works?
QuoteAny customer who desires an immediate fix to this issue can use the Cogent DNS servers (66.28.0.45 and 66.28.0.61) once added close your browser and retry.


But just to make it clear so that there are no misunderstandings, sort of disclaimer: None of the companies having problems are no way related to us directly. This "Cogent" is some US hosting/routing company that has large cables around countries and cross the Atlantic too I believe, and their routing systems have been failing here (as posted in first post in this thread). So it's out of our control, and affects many other areas and websites too than just ours.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: newboyonhere on May 05, 2010, 05:00:41 PM
Thanks for the info Sami.  I haven't read any others having the problem I'm having so I thought I would give it a shot.  Also Thanks Sami for developing a great game I think I have also caught on to some strategies of game play.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: newboyonhere on May 05, 2010, 05:29:19 PM
Sami, just to let you know all things are working again.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 05, 2010, 05:32:28 PM
I just emailed Cogent too since this partly occurring outage was getting too long, nearly 48h already.. They either fixed the whole issue (probable) or read my email (...not probable) ;)
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: ucfknightryan on May 05, 2010, 06:36:34 PM
It's kind of amazing that a Tier 1 ISP had a problem go on that long.
That had to cost them a not so small fortune...
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: rsdworker on May 05, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
no problems for me because i still have connection
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 06, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
Anyone having still problems, please report...
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: RushmoreAir on May 06, 2010, 01:31:18 PM
Slow loading of the home page, but once I'm on the site, I don't have any problems.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Sami on May 10, 2010, 07:12:11 PM
Still issues?  (our ISP investigated this too and if someone is still experiencing issues, I'd need to forward some data to them)


So if you are getting partial page loads, please do a ping and also a tracert to our site, and paste results here.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: Jupiter on May 12, 2010, 12:31:14 AM
My connection has been fine since a few days ago.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: elleana on May 12, 2010, 04:57:42 AM
Not from US/Canada, but also experiencing connectivitiy issues...


7    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  vlan913-an-cat6k-ts-2-rsm1.starhub.net.sg [203.1
18.7.4]
  8   142 ms    33 ms    26 ms  gi1-3-0-an-atl-int01.starhub.net.sg [203.118.3.1
71]
  9   196 ms   191 ms   192 ms  snge-b1-link.telia.net [213.248.89.145]
10   197 ms   321 ms   273 ms  prs-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.252.141]
11   315 ms   323 ms   210 ms  ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.211]
12   229 ms   228 ms   229 ms  s-bb1-link.telia.net [80.239.147.173]
13   236 ms   233 ms   247 ms  hls-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.250.63]
14     *        *      236 ms  TeliaSonera-IC-124322-hls-b4.c.telia.net [80.239
.132.6]
15   253 ms   233 ms   294 ms  crtr1-v1310.lau.hel.fi.nblnet.com [83.150.93.57]

16   235 ms   235 ms   263 ms  www.airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: swiftus27 on May 12, 2010, 05:32:17 PM
is it slow or are you losing packets too?
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: schro on May 24, 2010, 02:54:45 AM
I'm getting sluggish performance tonight. It looks like 64.209.111.137 and 64.209.110.194 are having some packets as a snack based on my tracerts. Latency seems to shoot up to 130+ms, but I'm guessing thats the point it jumps across the pond (I'm about 30 miles west of KGSO).


QuoteTracing route to airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    12 ms    13 ms    14 ms  gig2-0-4.gnboncsg-rtr1.triad.rr.com [24.28.228.1
78]
  4    13 ms    14 ms    14 ms  ge-3-1-0.rlghncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.
64.178]
  5    26 ms    26 ms    31 ms  ae-3-0.cr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.80]
  6    28 ms    27 ms    29 ms  ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
  7    26 ms    27 ms    33 ms  64.209.111.137
  8   141 ms     *        *     64.209.110.194
  9   136 ms   135 ms   134 ms  crtr1-v1311.lau.hel.fi.nblnet.com [83.150.93.49]

10   136 ms   137 ms   135 ms  www.airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]

Trace complete.

C:\Program Files (x86)\smartmontools\bin>tracert airwaysim.com

Tracing route to airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    13 ms    12 ms    12 ms  gig2-0-4.gnboncsg-rtr1.triad.rr.com [24.28.228.1
78]
  4    14 ms    13 ms    15 ms  ge-3-1-0.rlghncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.
64.178]
  5    39 ms    28 ms    26 ms  ae-3-0.cr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.80]
  6    25 ms    26 ms    26 ms  ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
  7    31 ms    29 ms    27 ms  64.209.111.137
  8   135 ms   135 ms   135 ms  64.209.110.194
  9   143 ms   135 ms   136 ms  crtr1-v1311.lau.hel.fi.nblnet.com [83.150.93.49]

10   135 ms   135 ms   134 ms  www.airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    12 ms    12 ms    11 ms  gig2-0-4.gnboncsg-rtr1.triad.rr.com [24.28.228.1
78]
  4    15 ms    15 ms    16 ms  ge-3-1-0.rlghncpop-rtr1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.
64.178]
  5    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  ae-3-0.cr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.80]
  6    29 ms    26 ms    40 ms  ae-2-0.pr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.169]
  7   190 ms     *       32 ms  64.209.111.137
  8     *      134 ms   135 ms  64.209.110.194
  9   134 ms   136 ms   138 ms  crtr1-v1311.lau.hel.fi.nblnet.com [83.150.93.49]

10   136 ms   136 ms   145 ms  www.airwaysim.com [217.30.182.14]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Connectivity issues from US / Canada
Post by: RushmoreAir on May 25, 2010, 05:38:46 PM
As I emailed to Sami, I appear to be losing packets today, and for 20 mins, AWS wasn't working at all.