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General forums => General forum => Topic started by: Aahz the Pervect on February 16, 2010, 01:47:01 AM

Title: Loan Timing
Post by: Aahz the Pervect on February 16, 2010, 01:47:01 AM
Can I accept delivery of a plane and go into the red so I can then use that plane as an asset to get a better loan?

Or do I need to get an unsecured loan before delivery to ensure I stay above water?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Loan Timing
Post by: Maarten Otto on February 16, 2010, 12:34:54 PM
You can't buy aircrafts if you just started in the game. All you can do is "lease" aircrafts. And couse they'r not yours you can't use them to secure a loan.
Title: Re: Loan Timing
Post by: Sigma on February 16, 2010, 02:08:18 PM
Yes you can take delivery of a plane that will put you into the red then borrow against it.

Whether you want to get a loan first or not to ensure you don't is up to you, but there's no real reason to.
Title: Re: Loan Timing
Post by: Aahz the Pervect on February 16, 2010, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: Maarten Otto on February 16, 2010, 12:34:54 PM
You can't buy aircrafts if you just started in the game. All you can do is "lease" aircrafts. And couse they'r not yours you can't use them to secure a loan.

Maybe diff scenarios have diff opportunities, but I was able to buy a plane and lease another on day one in the Jet Age. Granted, they are tiny little things compared to the fleets the Vet's fly and....it is gonna be a tightrope staying afloat once it arrives.



Quote from: Sigma on February 16, 2010, 02:08:18 PM
Yes you can take delivery of a plane that will put you into the red then borrow against it.

Whether you want to get a loan first or not to ensure you don't is up to you, but there's no real reason to.

Whew!!! Gives me a little more margin for error if I don't get the revenue stream up to where I want it by then. Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: Loan Timing
Post by: ban2 on February 16, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
i would recomend never getting a loan to lease

always use a loan to buy, this means you're airline value negates the loan and you can then use that aircraft to secure a newer loan.
Title: Re: Loan Timing
Post by: auerbacs on February 16, 2010, 05:04:54 PM
I have a related question:

When you're in the red, when do you stop making loan payments? So, I want to buy a new plane using my current plane as to secure credit for the new one. My hope is to just loan the amount that I need for the order confirmation. When the plane arrives in 6 weeks and I pay the on-delivery payment, I'll be about half a million in the red. That's fine, because I can make that back up, but I'm worried that the game will decide not to repay the loan and then the bank will seize my first plane.

So how far in the red does one have to be for the game to stop making the loan payments. And another thing, when you're in the red, do you have to pay interest on the negative cash holdings of the company? You're presumably borrowing it from somewhere...

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Auerbacs
Title: Re: Loan Timing
Post by: swiftus27 on February 16, 2010, 07:46:30 PM
You do pay interest when you are in the red....