As AirwaySim project is progressing we shortly need to start expanding the airport database to make the games larger. Now we need YOUR help in collecting this data. Please read the whole message carefully for instructions before getting into work :)
Our database already has a worldwide information on all airports on the world and their runways. But to calculate the passenger flows, we need also information about passenger numbers of these airports. So a following information is needed for all airports that are included to the game:
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Airport ICAO code
Airport IATA code
Name of the airport
Total number of passengers in year 2005 (or 2006 in 05 info not available - no decimal separators, just like 500000 for example!)
% of passengers (of the total) flying on domestic routes
% of passengers flying on international shorthaul routes (= within the same continent)
% of passengers flying on international longhaul routes (distance over 1800 nm and going to different continent)
Curfew time of the airport (if it is closed during night time, for example "23-05" - in local time. If no curfew or if it is unknown, just put "24H" )
Capacity - max. aircraft movements per hour (dep & arr combined) - enter 0 if unknown
Cargo tonnes transported per year (in 1000s kilos - tonnes) - enter 0 if unknown
Population of the area surrounding this airport (in millions, example 55.5 or 0.01 for 55.5 mil or 10 000 people, enter 0 in unknown)
Date when this airport was opened to traffic, format dd.mm.yyyy. Enter 0 if unknown.
Date when this airport is permanently closed to traffic, format dd.mm.yyyy, enter 0 if unknown or if still open today.
Airport size class (1 = small airfield, 2 = small regional airport, 3 = large regional airport, 4 = small intl. airport, 5 = large intl. airport)
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example:
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EFHK
HEL
Helsinki-Vantaa
5600000
35.5%
40.9%
23.6%
00-04
40
900.5
3.4
19.12.1952
0
5
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Please supply this list in txt format to me. Either via forum private message or via email (sami -at- airwaysim dot com) (please don't post them here to avoid this thread getting too long, thanks). Note that the passenger destination distribution is not always available straight from the statistics, so often one has to estimate a littlebit, depending on the airport destinations available. In the email please supply also a link to the statistics where you found the information.
And if possible, please include all airports of a single country at once (or one state at a time for bigger countries) so that we are able to keep track of what is included and what is not. You can also reply here to tell if you have sent some airport data so that others do not do the same work again.
Note also that you can see from this page that what airports are already included: https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports
Thank you!
Please note, there is a slight update in the data format requested.
What happened here? :-\
I think I'm going to find some more airports..... do you mind trying to see how many airports I've actually submitted? ;D
I'll try to clear up the queue shortly.
i joined just yesterday but is this game yet ready?ill wait until its ready :D
Quote from: WilliamH1942 on March 28, 2008, 06:00:49 PM
i joined just yesterday but is this game yet ready?ill wait until its ready :D
please read all the topics in the "general" forum. :)
yes, the thousand of them..... :o
hi to all,
I'm new, I can help you with "Palese Macchie - Bari Airport" (BRI/LIBD), shortly i send you the data.
Best regards
isnt that in Italy? :laugh:
That airport is already included.
oh ops :-[
Has anyone done Norwich or Stansted (UK), i'll see what I can do :)
Norwich, all you need to know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwich_International_Airport
Stansted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Stansted_Airport
I if they've got all the information you need
Yes it has been done : https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports/GB/
You can find all existing airports in the game here https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports
Quote from: Guillaume on May 17, 2008, 07:22:46 AM
Yes it has been done : https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports/GB/
You can find all existing airports in the game here https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports
Oh, thanks, it's just they're my closest airports :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Albania
I noticed your having trouble with finding Albanian Airports,
and I see you havn't got Beccles airport (UK), although it only alows small aircraft ::)
So now you just have to find the information as requested above in order to have these airports included in the game !
can't find a thing about either Albanian or Beccles, but I believe Beccles has stopped samll charter flights, and now does helicopter flights...
I try to find something else... :)
Niscocia's Ercan International Airport, Cyprus, not to be confused with the Abandon "Niscosia International".
FACT: If you are flying in from any other country, but Turkey, you need to touch down somewhere in Turkey first!
IATA: ECN
ICAO: LCEN
Serves: Nicosia
Location: Tymbou
Number of commercial flights in a year (to), (on average): 4680 (About 90 flights a week)
Position: Position 35°09´35"N, 033°29´18"E, Elevation 123m (403ft)
I'll try to find more info, hold on...
but Wikipedia is usless in this case :(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ercan_International_Airport
Well, your going to need to make sure the airport is in the site or not and you have to collect the data according the perimeters at the top of this page.
The problem is, I can't find anywhere to find the nformation :laugh:
LCEN
ECN
Nicosia-Ercan International
842400
80%
20%
0%
24H
0
0
270000
0
0
0
4
Okay, when Sami comes on, he can take a look at it.
Thanks, I didn't know wether to put a 3 or 4 for the end one though, I guess it's international, although it mainly takes flights from Turkey...
Why hasn't it been added yet? ???
I just sent Ipswich Airport (closed 1996) ;D
The Denver International we know today was opened in 1995. Up until 1995 it was Denver-Stapleton. Is there a way to implement this? Sami, this would make it more realistic if you added this airport. If you need a source, please PM me. ;)
yes of course, just need the data for the previous Denver apt.
(basically all the data of these now-closed / historical airports is still missing)
Quote from: sami on June 28, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
yes of course, just need the data for the previous Denver apt.
(basically all the data of these now-closed / historical airports is still missing)
Well have you added airport like Oshkosh, Chicago-Megis, or even Idlewild [Now JFK]?
On the news page thing, will it say if an airport has closed or will there be a list of airports that have have closed or something ???
Quote from: Jules on June 29, 2008, 05:01:37 PM
On the news page thing, will it say if an airport has closed or will there be a list of airports that have have closed or something ???
that would make sense....
QuoteOn the news page thing, will it say if an airport has closed or will there be a list of airports that have have closed or something
Thats already their i believe? - Checkout the World Events page on the news section.
I wish I could, I'm not a beta-tester... yet ;)
:laugh:
Hehe, im sure absolutely everyone on here would do many a thing to achieve that status :)
As im aiming to setup a Mediterranean-based airline, found a few airport i might service that i have submitted to sami.
VLK
MVLK
Vatalodstok
1200000
Quote from: sodaboy5 on July 05, 2008, 04:43:58 PM
VLK
MVLK
Vatalodstok
1200000
That airport doesnt exist and even if it did, its not the full list of required data ;)
Umm, yeh, these airports aren't made up :laugh:
Quote from: JVassie on July 04, 2008, 03:36:09 PM
Hehe, im sure absolutely everyone on here would do many a thing to achieve that status :)
As im aiming to setup a Mediterranean-based airline, found a few airport i might service that i have submitted to sami.
I've only submitted a couple, one of which I hope to be based at, but it closes in 1998, so hopefully, there will be a game that stop in 1997 or something :laugh:
Quote from: Jules on July 05, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
I've only submitted a couple, one of which I hope to be based at, but it closes in 1998, so hopefully, there will be a game that stop in 1997 or something :laugh:
I dont think youd enjoy being based there, considering that probably had no more that 100,000 pax a year, you'd have a very harfd time surviving :laugh:
I like a challenge, but hey, I could just make it a hub instead, and I reckon i'd be the only person there :laugh:
What Im saying is.... there wouldnt be enough passengers to support an airline there. Ipswich -CDG would be like maybe 50 pax at best. Same with LHR, etc.
Quote from: Seattle on July 06, 2008, 02:10:39 AM
What Im saying is.... there wouldnt be enough passengers to support an airline there. Ipswich -CDG would be like maybe 50 pax at best. Same with LHR, etc.
Let him try. It's trial and error. You make a few airlines, so what? ;)
You did it, let others do it. ;D
In theory you could base an Airline at every Airport in the database. It doesn't mean you will be flying a fleet of 10x 767-300ER's but what is represented in front of you, thats called market research :laugh: . If you have a low PAX count, mayby some Fairchild Metro III's will do the job.
And if your like me, you like such a challenge... After a while on the top flying the latest modern jet's, their is no challenge left in it... ::) .. Sure its fun the first few years while you stabilising, but after that its fair sailing.
Yeh, I'll probaly use Fokker F27's or something, or Beech/lear jets or something like that, Ipswich wasn't even closed due to lack of use, it was because the damn council wanted a HUGE new housing estate >:(
I can help with Brazilian regional airports.
I am accessing the sites of regional airlines, trying to find some new and importants airports.
Is hard to find some informations. Like this one, "Total number of passengers in year 2005 (or 2006 in 05 info not available - no decimal separators, just like 500000 for example!)"
I´m trying to give you a approximate number of 2007 or 2006...
For example: NHT Regional Airlines operates in a small airport called Caçador Airport. It is the only company that flies to that city.
I can´t find the total number of passengers in 2005, 06, 07. However, I know that they operates 19 seats aircrafts in that city, with 6 flights/day to 3 different cities, they don´t have flights in Caçador Airports on Saturdays and on Sundays and finally their load factor is 70%.
Doing simple calculations, I can get all informations that you want. Approximate informations only...
I just got the population, the airport altitude, runways, domestic passengers, intl ones, ICAO and IATA codes, Cargo transportation, airport class. Other informations are impossible to get...
Maintain contact with me by e-mail.
eduardomorteo@hotmail.com
Eduardo, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
The total number of pax may be estimated for those smaller airports, like you have done. And for the distribution of passengers (domestic, intl) is also easy to estimate based on what routes are being flown to the city, and in the case of these small BR airports I guess it's nearly 100% domestic.
I just sent info for some haitian, african and Swiss airports. Anyway, Sami told me that it may take some time until the new airports are on the game because he is coding right now :P
It does say at the start of the topuc not to post them here, POST THEM TO SAMI!
Quote from: Jules on July 21, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
It does say at the start of the topuc not to post them here, POST THEM TO SAMI!
OK!
Sami, I sent to you 37 new airports!
Check in your box!
OK, thanks. Takes a while before I will add those as I focus on coding the game at the moment.
If you need any information that's missing or unknown in the Middle East, I might know, or any clarifications and such. :)
Sami, more 5 new airports in your message box!
Hello Sami!
I just got more 10 airports for you.
Check your message box.
!
I would like to know, will you use the last 15 airports I sent to you?
Ed. He's probably busy and will add them when he has time.
Hi,
For those interested in the 2 small islands in the Netherlands Antilles of Saba and Sint Eustatius, I have sent the data for these so that
these airports can be featured. I will work on trying to submit some other smaller Caribbean Islands not yet covered.
Denicior.
I have found interesting list in the web, which might give some basic information, on which airorts could be added....
http://www.icao.int/anb/aig/Taxonomy/R4CDLocationIndicatorsbystate.pdf
http://worldaerodata.com/
BG
Alien
PTRO
ROR
Roman Tmetuchl International Airport
425,770 (2006)
3
85
15
24H
12
0
0.02
0
0
4
**additional infomation....there is large number of tourist from Japan(main cities), Hong Kong, Korea and Taiwan
I sent it to Sami for you, but don't worry, I said it was from you :)
Quote from: YamazaruNinja on July 06, 2008, 02:12:35 AM
Let him try. It's trial and error. You make a few airlines, so what? ;)
You did it, let others do it. ;D
Damn, Sami started the game to late, t closed before the game started :( O well, ext time maybe :P
Sami can you send me a PM with the detail's you have input in the game for OKBK (Kuwait International), I think it's a bit outdated, just send it to me via PM please just to check if it's the same or older than the data I have! :)
I've updated the data to the master database for Kuwait .. I think it was marked somewhere around 3,5mil pax which indeed was a bit low (or the others were too high...). But anyways, all should be 2005/2006 figures still.
I sent you a PM with the updated record's according to the data.. :)
Edit :- It should be 7million instead of 3.5m! ;)
there are some airports missing in central america, lack of info or no info for them yet?
I got a couple from Brazil and Russian area to be added, otherwise no info pending to be added.
are you aware that there is a database online in freebase.com that has plenty of information about airports, planes and traffic data.
Quote from: sami on September 16, 2008, 09:36:58 AM
I got a couple from Brazil and Russian area to be added, otherwise no info pending to be added.
yes.... you still need to add all those russian ones I sent you. ;D
Hi!
i recent registered my self at this Amazing Simulator, readed all about the beta testers and how to help!
So, i think i can help with Brazilian Airports.
After reading this posts, i had see that others are helping with the brazilian Airports data. So, to not make any useless efforts, i read on the main site, the list of the airports, but i`m not able to found any info about what airports are still needing info.
Where can we found some "fresh" data about wich airports are still needing informations?
After that, i will try to found that informations, unfortunally about the Brazilian Airports only....
Best regards.
Bruno
I finally found Ercan info, and sent it to you Sami
bump, Sami aren't you talking to me :(
I got some route information from Stansted to Ercan to if it makes things any easier
http://www.stanstedairport.com/portal/page/STN%5EFlight+Information%5EFlight+Timetables%5EScheduled+Flight+Timetable/
I got at least 5 missing airports in Mexico. I could get all the info ready for tomorrow night. Is it too late now?
PS: If this thread is considered dead, I'm sorry. :-[ I'm new.
Airports India-
VICG
IXC
Chandigarh Airport
900000
75%
15%
10%
6:00-18:00-SUNRISE TO SUNSET(SR-SS)
0
0
0
0
0
3=large regional airport
Longitude : 76° 48' 0" E
30° 40' 0" N
Runway Length : 8950 ft.
Well... there are a couple of airports missing in Azores - Portugal, I have the location data about them... but no Pax data so far... -.-''
Missing airports:
Corvo - LPCR/CVU info here (http://gc.kls2.com/airport/CVU)
Graciosa - LPGR/GRW info here (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=PO39034&sch=LPGR)
São Jorge - LPSJ/SJZ info here (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=PO72779&sch=LPsj)
Flores - LPFL/FLW info here (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=PO12169&sch=lpfl)
Pico - LPPI/PIX info here (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=PO65908&sch=lppi)
Runway: 1755x45 m
Number of Passengers in 2006 - 58 000/yr
Location - 38º 33' N 28º 26' W
All these airports only have domestic connections to the other islands except for Pico that has 1-2 weekly connections to Lisbon (A319/A320).
A lot of missing airports in Mexico.
MMCM
CTM
Chetumal International Airport
1 daily 732 with 120 seats and one daily Fokker 100 with 107 seats. Don't know how many PAX a year, though.
100%
0%
0%
07-19
0
0
0.13
0
0
2
----
MMZH
ZIH
Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo International Airport
0
30%
70%
0%
24H
0
0
.06
0
0
3
---
MMLO
BJX
Leon-Bajio International Airport
0
50%
50%
0%
24H
0
0
1.63
0
0
3
---
MMPB
PBC
Hermanos Serdan International Airport
0
90%
10%
0%
24H
0
0
2.1
0
0
3
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MMTO
TLC
Lic. Adolfo Lopez Mateos International Airport
0
10%
90%
0%
24H
0
0
1.6
0
0
4
NOTE: This airport works as an alternate airport for Mexico City. This airport is the home of Mexico's 2 largest Low-Cost airlines, Interjet and Volaris. Both airlines were born in 2004, and before them nearly no airline operated in the airport. Right now the airport is being revamped and it will be much bigger. It once handled flights to Madrid with the defunct airline AirMadrid.
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Here's a helpful hint on actually getting airports added.
Quote from: sami on July 20, 2007, 08:17:46 AM
Please supply this list in txt format to me. Either via forum private message or via email (sami -at- airwaysim dot com) (please don't post them here to avoid this thread getting too long, thanks).
See also the first message in this thread for the data that needs to be collected about any given airport before it can be added to the game, and the format in which the data should be presented (marc0o0o0o seems to have it right, but just needs to PM it to Sami).
I did YTZ
Sami,
We know you're a busy man, but I wanted to make sure you got the airports in the US I sent you. Some of them were pretty small potatoes, but they do (or did) have airline service.
Also surprised that Riyadh and Jeddah are not in the system. I'll get to work on those.
Thanks!
Quote from: bigdogshark62 on May 24, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Also surprised that Riyadh and Jeddah are not in the system. I'll get to work on those.
If you are talking about the JetAge games, simply because the airports didn't exist back then. --> https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports
Surprised no one noticed Stephenville, in Canada (CYJT) was never added to the sim. I'll try and get all the info together to submit this week.
Quote from: sami on May 24, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
If you are talking about the JetAge games, simply because the airports didn't exist back then. --> https://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Airports
As someone said before... D'oh... ::) Thanks!
are my china airports entered yet sami? :(
Are my Russian airports in? :P
I sent them in ages ago by email and the contact formm..... :laugh:
Have you thought about Baghdad yet?
You have also missed Ta'if regional airport in Saudi Arabia, Bagdhad and Jazan.
Infact you have missed a hell of a lot of Middle Eastern airports, let me try to get the information.
Plus flights from Damman to Bahrain are allowed in real life.
Jazan is included. Just spelled differently ;)
I never added Baghdad, nor really looked into Iraq, so....
I sent this information to sami:
IRAQ
ORBI
SDA
Baghdad International Airport
547500
8%
88%
4%
24H
0
0
6.6
0.0.1982
0
4
SAUDI
OETF
TIF
Ta'if Regional Airport
204400
75%
25%
0%
24H
0
0
0.52
0
3
I would have though baghdad had more but according to the airports CEO it was that in 2006, I didn't do 2005 because I think that was a bad year for the airport and most traffic was cancelled into it, and now in 2009 I think now the violence is stopping it's getting into the millions.
only 1982 people ive in Baghdad!? ;)
There is all u need about airports in poland :) to lazy to do like u asked :) but still u may need it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Poland)
You have some incorrect information about Russian regional airports.
For example, there are:
2 everyday flights from Bratsk to Moscow, Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk (2 flights to each!) using Tu-154 from 1990 till our days
1 everyday flight to Krasnodar, Yakutsk
15 everyday flights to Irkutsk on Yakovlev-40 and 42
3-4 everyday flights from Irkutsk to Beijing, Vladivostok, Krasnoyarsk, Novosibirsk on Tu-154
Irkutsk to Moscow: 1 flight on A310, 1 on Tu-154, 2 on A320, 1 on B767, 1 on Il-62 and 1 on Tu-204 - more than 1000 pax per day!
I'm looking into Kingston, ON. At the moment it has 7 daily flights to CYYZ and has potential for more regional connections.......
Quote from: Tim on July 14, 2009, 04:23:59 AM
You have some incorrect information about Russian regional airports.
For example, there are:
Irkutsk to Moscow: 1 flight on A310, 1 on Tu-154, 2 on A320, 1 on B767, 1 on Il-62 and 1 on Tu-204 - more than 1000 pax per day!
An A310 from Irkutsk to Moscow???? I doubt that...
Quote from: Dasha on July 18, 2009, 11:58:15 AM
An A310 from Irkutsk to Moscow???? I doubt that...
This is what I see in my system.
1 SU 750 D IKT SVO 1 0700 0805 0 23JUL09 25OCT09 320 6:05
2 UT 466 D IKT VKO 0750 0820 0 19JUN09 24OCT09 TU5 5:30
3 S7 777 D IKT DME 0915 1025 0 28JUL09 04AUG09 763 6:10
4 S7 775 X23 IKT DME 1120 1230 0 23JUL09 31AUG09 320 6:10
5 S7 775 3 IKT DME 1130 1240 0 29JUL09 26AUG09 320 6:10
6 UN 116 16 IKT DME 1220 1340 0 01AUG09 03AUG09 T20 6:20
7 SU 748 D IKT SVO 1 1240 1345 0 30MAR09 24OCT09 320 6:05
This is the daily flights rooster in Amadeus Selling platform --- it states that daily there is two flights to SVO, One flight to VKO and one flight to DME. Also there is one more flight to DME at every day except 2nd day of the week and aditional flight at mo and sa.
And there is no Airbus A310 anywhere :) but maybe it's not internationaly sellable.
I sent Toronto City centre Airport in some time ago, has it been included?
Quote from: Filippo on July 23, 2009, 09:38:27 AM
I sent Toronto City centre Airport in some time ago, has it been included?
it takes FOREVEERR for sami to enter the airports, hopefully they'll be in by ATB2. I submitted like 30~ a few months ago.
Quote from: Filippo on July 23, 2009, 09:38:27 AM
I sent Toronto City centre Airport in some time ago, has it been included?
I don't think CYTZ has enough demand for it to be a viable airport in aws, but try sami and ask him.
Not sure if this has been posted before. Here is some good traffic data for Australia.
http://www.bitre.gov.au/info.aspx?ResourceId=211&NodeId=103
I might have some data for Nicaragua that might be useful.
Sami ,
can you show me the data for Agusto C Sandio ( Managua International). I want to see what it is. I was just down in Nicaragua and the flight I was on was full to the brim (Delta to ATL), the other flights I saw were full too (American & Continental)
Ross
CYTZ
YTZ
Toronto City Centre Airport
80000
50%
50%
0%
24H
93,253
0
10.9
04.05.1996
0
2
Quote from: T8KE0FF on August 04, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
CYTZ
YTZ
Toronto City Centre Airport
80000
50%
50%
0%
24H
93,253
0
10.9
04.05.1996
0
2
was already sent in WAAAAAAAAAAAY before. ;)
and CYTZ was actually opened way before 1996. It was opened for commercial traffic in 1982 when City Centre Airways was granted a license to operate Dash 7s to Ottawa and Montreal. Then in 1984, City Express operated until 1991 from YTZ, then Jazz took over flights in name of Air Canada, but was pushed out by Porter Airlines in 2006. Porter has been using it ever since.
Quote from: Tim on July 14, 2009, 04:23:59 AM
You have some incorrect information about Russian regional airports.
For example, there are:
2 everyday flights from Bratsk to Moscow, Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk (2 flights to each!) using Tu-154 from 1990 till our days
1 everyday flight to Krasnodar, Yakutsk
15 everyday flights to Irkutsk on Yakovlev-40 and 42
3-4 everyday flights from Irkutsk to Beijing, Vladivostok, Krasnoyarsk, Novosibirsk on Tu-154
Irkutsk to Moscow: 1 flight on A310, 1 on Tu-154, 2 on A320, 1 on B767, 1 on Il-62 and 1 on Tu-204 - more than 1000 pax per day!
Thats really not true. Mostflights between seconardy russian cities fly no more than several time a week. Take VVO for example. Vladivostok Air flies to quite a number of destinations from their, but hardly any of them other than Moscow, St. Pete, and Kharabovsk have more than 3-4 weekly flights. Many are justl ike 2-3x a week.
EDFH
HHN
Frankfurt - Hahn
3079528
5%
95%
0%
06-10
16
125049
2.26
30.09.1993
0
4
already implimented. ;)
SHOCK! HORROR! :o
Just realized the third largest airport in Central America (Guatemala City - La Aurora - MGGT) is missing! Egad! Call the police!
Here's the info:
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MGGT
GUA
Guatemala City - La Aurora Intl.
2212433
7%
81%
12%
24H
30
16.9
7.2
1955
0
5
Thanks!!!
I did Gan (maldives) and sent it to Sami vi forum private message
Sami,
I have to complain about the low passenger numbers for the airports in Brazil in the game so found the statistics for all airports in Brazil.
The link (pdf) http://www.infraero.gov.br/upload/arquivos/movi/mov.%20operac_1208%20revisado.pdf (http://www.infraero.gov.br/upload/arquivos/movi/mov.%20operac_1208%20revisado.pd) contains the name of all the airports in Brazil and their statistics.
Below is the translation for each word since the document is in portuguese:
Dependencia: Simply the Airport Name.
Aeronaves: Airplanes
Passagerios: Passengers
Carga Aerea: Cargo
Mala Postal: Postal
I did all the remaining Maldivian Airports and sent them in to Sami. These are: Hanimaadhoo, Kaadedhdhoo and Kadhdhoo Airports.
I hope that they are added quick because I would like to play with an airline from the Maldives in the next games!
Is there any chance that my Maldivian airports will be in by the launch of the next games?
Here's my question...
I submitted Ft Myers - Page Field (KFMY) near the beginning of the last set of games (SW Florida Regional/Int'l didn't open until 1984), and it still isn't in the listings, which basically means airlines are flying out of an airport that didn't exist at the time we're supposed to be flying there. I also had some Washington state airports submitted, and just submitted Guatemala City (the #3 airport in all of Central America).
Sami, I know you're probably a very busy man. Is there something we can do to help code these into the system, to expedite the process so you're not always getting questions about when a user's favorite airport is going to be added or updated? Is there a way to design a portal that will allow the user to input the information directly into the system, and then all you have to do is look over the info and authorize the airport for use?
We want to help out any way we can, but we also want to improve and streamline things (not to mention take some of the stress off you) so planes aren't landing in a marshy field in Ft. Myers, and La Aurora airport in Guatemala can finally open up and serve the millions of pax it should be.
Thanks!
Bigdogshark62
Quote from: bigdogshark62 on August 09, 2009, 04:51:40 PM
SHOCK! HORROR! :o
Just realized the third largest airport in Central America (Guatemala City - La Aurora - MGGT) is missing! Egad! Call the police!
Here's the info:
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MGGT
GUA
Guatemala City - La Aurora Intl.
2212433
7%
81%
12%
24H
30
16.9
7.2
1955
0
5
Thanks!!!
That helps the data for Managua Intl.
Looking for data to Bluefields AIrport in Nicaragua. ANybody have it?
My maldivian airpots are in!
I just noticed now! maybe Sami has already added all of the airports we are moaning about. We just have to go and check!
hey, I just found out about the Fort Worth Alliance Airport. does anyone want me to send it in for, say regional ops, or not?
Quote from: bigdogshark62 on August 15, 2009, 07:32:32 PM
I also had some Washington state airports submitted
Thanks!
Bigdogshark62
No need to. There all already in there. SEA, geg, Psc, alw, eat, ykm, pul, bli, clm, bfi, mhw, and even anacortes and on something harbor ;)
Quote from: ICEcold on September 02, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
hey, I just found out about the Fort Worth Alliance Airport. does anyone want me to send it in for, say regional ops, or not?
I don't think Alliance even operates as a commercial airport, does it? It's all fleet services, cargo, and, on occasion, the rare corporate jet.
All the local municipal air service for charter or regional service is handled by Meacham a bit further south and only extremely limited even there.
meachem then? will aid in making aws delays and cancellations more realistic.... ;)
edit: sami, I have a complaint about CYTZ. There are certain routes that are very demanding from there, like for example CYTZ to Ottawa: Porter Airlines flies there 17x daily with an all-economy Q400 (about 70 seats) and makes a huge profit. They also fly to Montreal 18x daily. Ottawa should be about 700-800, and Montreal should be about 1000-1200. They also fly to Newark (7x daily), Chicago MDW(6x daily), Boston(3x daily), Thunder Bay(3x daily), Quebec City(daily), St. John's(3x daily) and Halifax(5x daily via ottawa) . they also fly to Mont Tremblanc seasonal, but only daily during that period. you should adjust the demand for those routes and also to Philidelphia, Minneapolis, Washington DC (one of the 2 airports) and Cincinnati, as porter is thinking of adding those destinations. tnx. :D
Quote from: ICEcold on September 03, 2009, 01:29:06 PM
meachem then? will aid in making aws delays and cancellations more realistic.... ;)
edit: sami, I have a complaint about CYTZ. There are certain routes that are very demanding from there, like for example CYTZ to Ottawa: Porter Airlines flies there 17x daily with an all-economy Q400 (about 70 seats) and makes a huge profit. They also fly to Montreal 18x daily. Ottawa should be about 700-800, and Montreal should be about 1000-1200. They also fly to Newark (7x daily), Chicago MDW(6x daily), Boston(3x daily), Thunder Bay(3x daily), Quebec City(daily), St. John's(3x daily) and Halifax(5x daily via ottawa) . they also fly to Mont Tremblanc seasonal, but only daily during that period. you should adjust the demand for those routes and also to Philidelphia, Minneapolis, Washington DC (one of the 2 airports) and Cincinnati, as porter is thinking of adding those destinations. tnx. :D
Yah, the data for CYTZ is a bit skewed because it was added before Porter really started operating. If the number representing the airport is totally wrong, then I think it warrents enough to change the data. You can also always submit sp ecific route data requests. :)
@ Cesarb
I sent to sami, in the year 2007 for the year 2006, the entire infraero data in a .txt file with EVERY airport. the total traffic for the year 2006 was 90mln for domestic and only 12mln for international splitted in 67 airport. With only an hub it's impossible to have many passengers in this country..
Quote from: Seattle on September 04, 2009, 01:10:06 AM
Yah, the data for CYTZ is a bit skewed because it was added before Porter really started operating. If the number representing the airport is totally wrong, then I think it warrents enough to change the data. You can also always submit sp ecific route data requests. :)
i'll do exactly that then. sami, could you change the specific route demands to those destinations and also winnipeg and charlottetown (both about 100-200 daily). the ones i said earlier (Philidelphia, Minneapolis, Cincinnati and Washington DC[most likely Ronald Reagan]) should have a 200-300/400 demand daily. Adjust the demand as per specific days as you would, as they are only average demands, not exact. thanks.
About this CYTZ thing, well, we have to calculate that porter has a LF of 44% - 40% (http://blog.communityair.org/2009/08/31/porters-load-factor-declining.aspx)
Also, we have to calculate that porter is "stealing" some pax from CYYZ on the flights it operates so I think that this CYTZ thing will not be fully realistic until we have a city to city based demand. Anyway, if you do calculations based on 44% LF of porter on the routes you've mentioned, they shouldn't be too out. Correct me if i'm wrong - as I'm not in ATB
This situation is a bit similar to LCY
I notice that VTCC has wrong curfew :)
VTCC
CNX
Chiang Mai International Airport
3290856 (2006)
89.12% (Suvarnabhumi 58.87%, Don Mueang 15.97%, Mae Hong Son 3.27%, Phuket 2.64%, Other 19.25%)
10.88% (Singapore 29.28%, Kuala Lumpur 26.87%, Taipei 12.18%, Luang Prabang 6.87%, Kunming 5.72%, Other 19.04%)
0%
23.30-06
24
22.869
1.099473 (Chiang Mai Metropolitan Area)
0
0
4
http://www.airportthai.co.th/_admin/uploadfiles/cp_statistic_11_attach_3.pdf (http://www.airportthai.co.th/_admin/uploadfiles/cp_statistic_11_attach_3.pdf)
http://www.airportthai.co.th/chiang_mai/en/airport_info_general_info.php (http://www.airportthai.co.th/chiang_mai/en/airport_info_general_info.php)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Mai_International_Airport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Mai_International_Airport)
lol
The topic was reborned... 2 y after...
oh, just an update on the CYTZ situation - Air Canada Express has started service at CYTZ on top of Porter's services, which have already expanded incredibly, and the LF on Porter has just reached the 65% mark - with Air Canada's being 40%..?
I assume this will be fixed with city-based demand?
Cheers,
ICEcold
Hi. Phuket Airport (VTSP) is actually opened for 24 hours a day. Can this be fixed in the game world please? Currently in airwaysim it closes between 0000-0600.
Thanks
Swadeep
Quote from: schansrichavala on June 22, 2012, 06:07:14 AM
Hi. Phuket Airport (VTSP) is actually opened for 24 hours a day. Can this be fixed in the game world please? Currently in airwaysim it closes between 0000-0600.
Thanks
Swadeep
According to VTSP's official website (http://www.airportthai.co.th/ewtadmin85_AOT/ewt/phuket/ewt_news.php?nid=7&filename=sitemap___EN (http://www.airportthai.co.th/ewtadmin85_AOT/ewt/phuket/ewt_news.php?nid=7&filename=sitemap___EN)) airport services are open from 0600-2400...
Quote from: jetwestinc on June 22, 2012, 11:20:03 AM
According to VTSP's official website (http://www.airportthai.co.th/ewtadmin85_AOT/ewt/phuket/ewt_news.php?nid=7&filename=sitemap___EN (http://www.airportthai.co.th/ewtadmin85_AOT/ewt/phuket/ewt_news.php?nid=7&filename=sitemap___EN)) airport services are open from 0600-2400...
On this website you can clearly see that there are activities between midnight and 6 am and it's not just one off...if anyone uses FLIGHTTRACK application on ipad and iphone you can also clearly see that there are plenty of activities actually after midnight with mainly flights going to China and Kores etc.
http://www.phuketairportonline.com/node/12
I live in Thailand also and I can confirm that the airport is active 24 hours in Phuket even though not a lot but still active.
Hope this will be amended in the next game.
Cheers
Swadeep
Quote from: schansrichavala on June 22, 2012, 01:08:38 PM
On this website you can clearly see that there are activities between midnight and 6 am and it's not just one off...if anyone uses FLIGHTTRACK application on ipad and iphone you can also clearly see that there are plenty of activities actually after midnight with mainly flights going to China and Kores etc.
http://www.phuketairportonline.com/node/12
I live in Thailand also and I can confirm that the airport is active 24 hours in Phuket even though not a lot but still active.
Hope this will be amended in the next game.
Cheers
Swadeep
This is one of those things that would be difficult to code. There are airports that have a "soft" curfew, meaning an airline can schedule flights during the curfew period but pay a premium in landing fees or a "fine" (Burbank/Hollywood (KBUR/BUR) comes to mind) and others that are "closed" but will allow late flights to operated during the curfew hours. In this case, the airport is "officially" closed from 2400-0600 so that is what Sami considers regardless of the fact that aircraft do operated between 2400 and 0600.
Don
Quote from: jetwestinc on June 22, 2012, 01:28:47 PM
This is one of those things that would be difficult to code. There are airports that have a "soft" curfew, meaning an airline can schedule flights during the curfew period but pay a premium in landing fees or a "fine" (Burbank/Hollywood (KBUR/BUR) comes to mind) and others that are "closed" but will allow late flights to operated during the curfew hours. In this case, the airport is "officially" closed from 2400-0600 so that is what Sami considers regardless of the fact that aircraft do operated between 2400 and 0600.
Don
Ok then. That's fair enough. While I had that thought in mind about having to pay extra premium fees for late night operations I didn't think it would be hard to just enable the airport for 24 hours operation. Having said that I realize it would be another situation to code the extra fees having to be paid etc. that's fair enough then I guess.
Thanks for clarification.
Cheers
Swadeep
Bucharest - Aurel Vlaicu is no more opened for commercial aviation. Since March 2012 it´s only for bussines aviation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurel_Vlaicu_Airport