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Title: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Toblerone on September 01, 2009, 06:10:58 PM
I'm missing the SAAB Scandia aircraft!
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Sami on September 01, 2009, 06:13:52 PM
I am missing some vital payload / weight data on that and the plane is temporarily hidden from the games...

I would need OEW, max payload weights and also the info on aircraft's range. But there isn't really reliable data.
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Talentz on September 01, 2009, 06:22:14 PM
Hmm.. I just picked up another task for my "things to do list". lol..

Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Toblerone on September 02, 2009, 06:52:01 AM
Introduced 1944
First delivery, october 1950 (to SAS)
End of production 1954
Passengers 32 (standard at a 4 seats per row config.)
Wingspan: 28.0 m
Length: 21.3 m
Height: 7.1 m
Wing area: 85.7 sq. m
Engines: 2xPratt & Whitney R-2180-E1, 1650 hp each
Empty weight: 9960 kg
Takeoff weight: 16500 kg
Max. speed: 450 km/h
Landing speed: 130 km/h
Climb rate: 6.5 m/s
Ceiling: 7500 m
Range: 2510 km
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Sami on September 02, 2009, 07:39:15 AM
yes, I do know wikipedia... That data is however not detailed enough.
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: coopdogyo on September 02, 2009, 08:38:31 AM
i found this
Saab-90 Scandia

AirlinerCrew   4
Passengers   24-36
Propulsion   2 Radial Engines
Engine Model   Pratt & Whitney
Engine Power (each)   1342 kW   1800 hp
Speed   390 km/h   211 kts
Service Ceiling   7.500 m   24.606 ft
Range   1.480 km   799 nm
Empty Weight   9.960 kg   21.958 lbs
max. Takeoff Weight   16.000 kg   35.274 lbs
Wing Span   28,00 m   91,9 ft
Wing Area   85,7 m²   922 ft²
Length   21,30 m   69,9 ft
Height   7,10 m   23,3 ft
First Flight   16.11.1946
Production Status   out of production
Total Production   18
Data for (Version)   Saab-90A
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Sami on September 02, 2009, 11:16:36 AM
Did you check the first message, we're not talking of the 340/2000 here.
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Lurkmat on September 02, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
ops.. my mistake.. :-[
Title: Re: SAAB - Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget
Post by: Axis Air on November 05, 2009, 03:42:16 AM
Will this he   

 Saab 90 Scandia 

  Saab 90A
Civil passenger airplane
  JRLucariny FSDS V3.5 Model 

 Saab History

SAAB Scandia 90: The Last One On Earth
September 26th, 2007 by Ryan

The SAAB Scandia 90 also known as project CT for (Civilian Transport), was SAAB’s first civil airliner. It was originally developed in 1944 in conjunction with ABA (Swedish Air Lines) to replace their DC-3’s and had its maiden voyage in November 16th of 1946. The seating capacity was equivalent to the more recent SAAB 340 aircraft with approximately 30 seats.
 The Scandia aircraft began to see it’s focus change when new priorities came to SAAB by the Swedish Navy request that they redirect most of their resources to the SAAB J29 aircraft instead. At this point, SAAB needed to recover their costs involved in the massive investment they already in this attempt to get into the commercial airline industry. SAAB eventually attempted to sell the Scandia production division to FIAT who expressed interest, however it was FOKKER of the Netherlands that took over the ownership of the production on May 2nd, 1954.
 As part of this agreement, FOKKER completed a batch of six final aircraft beginning in April of 1954 where two were sold to VASP in Brazil and four to Scandinavian Airline Systems (SAS) in Sweden. Unfortunately, shortly after this agreement was made, FOKKER’s resources ended up becoming saturated with the creation of a product line for a new generation of pressurized airplanes. This production line for the 6 Scandia 90’s by FOKKER ended in October of 1954, not long after they started.
 Three years later (1957), VASP in Brazil bought all of the remaining fleet of Scandia 90’s from SAS. VASP operated the Scandia 90 until it’s last revenue flight which was on July 22nd, 1969. There were a total of 18 Scandias built (1944-1954). The Scandia 90 was also the first use of the designation with the number 9 took place, marking the birthplace of the “9″ designation for civilian projects that was eventually used for future aviation (SAFIR 91) projects, and ultimately the Saab automobile car until present day.

 As I mentioned earlier, the last remaining Scandia 90 on the earth is located outside in a museum in the village of Bebeduoro, Brazil in South America. This museum is titled the Museo de Armas and is managed by curator Eduardo Andreia Matarazzo.

 I also indicated previously that I was told while visiting SAAB in Linköping, Sweden back in the summer of 2005 that they have tried to buy this for their 50th anniversary in 1987, their 60th in 1997 as well as their recent 70th anniversary this year, but the owners at this museum continue to ask for a figure that is extremely unreasonable, something around 25 million dollars I recall.

 I sure hope that some day this museum will change their mind and sell the plane to complete SAAB’s collection of their aircraft back over in Sweden. This aircraft was a monumental and historical moment in time for SAAB and needs a new home where it could be restored to perfect working order inside and out, both mechanically and cosmetically.
 Here are the Production numbers where I have highlighted the aircraft serial number that resides in the museum in Brazil.
90001 SE-BCA Prototype
90101 SE-BSA Aerovias Brasil
90102 SE-BSB Aerovias Brasil
90103 PP-XEI Aerovias Brasil
90104 PP-XEJ Aerovias Brasil

 JRLucariny SAAB SCANDIA 90A Panel


 90111 PP-SQN VASP

 SCANDIA 90A JRLucariny Model

 General characteristics
Capacity: 24 or 32 passengers
Length: 21.3 m (69.9 feet)
Wingspan: 28 m (91.9 feet)
Height: 7.1 m (23.3 feet)
Empty weight: 9,960 kg (21,958 pounds)
Max takeoff weight: 36,376 pounds
Powerplant: 2× Pratt & Whitney R-2180 14-cylinder radial engines, 1650 hp (1 230 kW) each

Maximum speed: 450 km/h (280 mph)
Range: 2510 km (1 560 miles)
Service ceiling: 7500 m (24 600 feet)
Rate of climb: 6.5 m/s (21 feet/s)