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Title: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: JumboShrimp on August 26, 2011, 11:02:04 PM
I know Microsoft used to have the best flight simulator in the past.  Are they still the best, or are there any better alternatives?
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: RushmoreAir on August 26, 2011, 11:31:35 PM
I have FSX with the full getup (yoke, throttle controls, rudder pedals, etc.) but I don't have a gaming computer.

I am OK with it.  It gets 3.75 stars in my book.  It definitely has potential.  But it needs a REALLY good graphics card to perform.  I have a mid-grade Gateway on Vista (3 yrs old) and even on mid-grade graphics, it is a really slow performer and frequently crashes.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Dave4468 on August 26, 2011, 11:34:36 PM
I have FSX with the full getup (yoke, throttle controls, rudder pedals, etc.) but I don't have a gaming computer.

I am OK with it.  It gets 3.75 stars in my book.  It definitely has potential.  But it needs a REALLY good graphics card to perform.  I have a mid-grade Gateway on Vista (3 yrs old) and even on mid-grade graphics, it is a really slow performer and frequently crashes.

Its true. I use FSX but it does struggle, and my PC isn't weak. There is this new Microsoft Flight coming along but I have heard somewhere it is going to be aimed more at gamers and away from simulation.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Pilot Oatmeal on August 27, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/

This is the new flight sim coming out, I'm not sure whether or not its for gamers or sim fans however looking at one of the videos I'm going with sim fans. :) thank god
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Ilyushin on August 27, 2011, 09:44:59 AM
People might suggest X-Plane as alternative but it is nowhere as good as FS2004/FSX...

For the best experience play FS2004. It is not a lot different from FSX and it runs much more smoothly. However the default aircraft are crap and you should certainly download some great add-ons.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on August 27, 2011, 10:55:28 AM
A few years ago FS9 was the best option because of the many add-ons on offer.

Now FSX has not only caught up but overtaken FS9 on the add-on front, with much more functionality. An example is the recent release of the PMDG 737NGX, the most realistic simulation of an aircraft for desktop users to date. Only down side is that you need a high performance system for FSX, but you also need to optimise your settings, etc for it to work better.

Another alternative is X-Plane. I've never played it but I've heard that the physics are really accurately modelled so might be worth a try, depending if you're looking for realism or not.

Flight I think will be a more plug and fly, arcade like experience. So once again, depends what you're looking for. Also remember that it will take many years for the add-ons to be developed for Flight once it's released.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Zabuti on August 29, 2011, 07:51:43 AM
Hello

As from a pîlot standpoint, FSX is amazing for props planes. I don't know if it's because of motion or the way they modelled it, but its really well designed for Props.

But when it comes to reaction planes (like A321, B737 or B747), it's a shame... you catch a glimpse of it, but not more

However, it's not meant to be a A330 training sim though

FSX is cool, honestly. And I feel it a bit more intuitive than Xplane
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on August 29, 2011, 08:54:03 PM
X-Plane I feel is a bit too simulation for me, I like the way that FSX and FS9 are modelled, because with all the add-ons and whatnot, you could even have a really good interpretation of reality..which, of course, is WAY cool. :laugh:

Cheers,
ICEcold
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: swiftus27 on August 29, 2011, 09:33:44 PM
There are many people on IVAO and Vatsim who use add ons to realistically have fully controlled flights.   

I can't believe how many times FSX crashes on IVAO while on final approach.  If it were a real life controller and he got that many 'loss of signal' warnings on his screen, he'd be hitting the bottle really really hard.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: MRFREAK on August 29, 2011, 11:38:43 PM
It could be awesome if there was a air simulation game. Where it's MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) on some big servers, just like games such as World of Warcraft.

First of you start at flying school, then you get a job as an Air Taxi Pilot, where you fly short destinations and earn some cash, after you gotten certain number of flight times, you unlock the possibility of flying business jets that lets you earn the big money so you can start taking commercial airline certificate. So you can fly for commercial airlines in small aircrafts such as Bombardier Q400 and ATR's and other kinds of small commercial aircrafts.
After that you start flying for experience and flight time, untill you get enough to start flying CRJ's and ERJ's, after that 737's A319's 320's 321's domestic and then 757's, 767's, A318/19/20/21's etc. international flights and in the very end fly intercontinental flights in 747's A330's and all that.


Now that would be awesome! I think i will sell that idea to Microsoft or something  :laugh:
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Pilot Oatmeal on August 30, 2011, 07:21:52 AM
It could be awesome if there was a air simulation game. Where it's MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) on some big servers, just like games such as World of Warcraft.

First of you start at flying school, then you get a job as an Air Taxi Pilot, where you fly short destinations and earn some cash, after you gotten certain number of flight times, you unlock the possibility of flying business jets that lets you earn the big money so you can start taking commercial airline certificate. So you can fly for commercial airlines in small aircrafts such as Bombardier Q400 and ATR's and other kinds of small commercial aircrafts.



Now that would be awesome! I think i will sell that idea to Microsoft or something  :laugh:

You can't earn money as a pilot unless you have a CPL (Commercial Pilots Licence) so you would need to get that at a recognized flight school.  To fly business jets you would need a type rating on the aircraft your flying so again you'd need to go to flight school.  Flying business jets would generally pay more than flying the Q400 so I don't know why you would switch... just helping you out there haha, but it would be a good idea :)
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: PiaDijkstra on August 30, 2011, 08:35:48 AM
You can't earn money as a pilot unless you have a CPL (Commercial Pilots Licence) so you would need to get that at a recognized flight school.  To fly business jets you would need a type rating on the aircraft your flying so again you'd need to go to flight school.  Flying business jets would generally pay more than flying the Q400 so I don't know why you would switch... just helping you out there haha, but it would be a good idea :)


Absolutely, make it like this sim, pay a weekly fee, have everything online so you do not need massive performance at home only a proper internet line!

Count me in
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: MRFREAK on August 30, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
You can't earn money as a pilot unless you have a CPL (Commercial Pilots Licence) so you would need to get that at a recognized flight school.  To fly business jets you would need a type rating on the aircraft your flying so again you'd need to go to flight school.  Flying business jets would generally pay more than flying the Q400 so I don't know why you would switch... just helping you out there haha, but it would be a good idea :)


I haven't really set myself into that stuff  :(. It was just an idea i just came up with.  :laugh:

Another way in the game should be like, you join the airforce and then jump over to commercial airlining like a lot of other pilots in real life :)
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: MRFREAK on August 30, 2011, 02:44:01 PM
Absolutely, make it like this sim, pay a weekly fee, have everything online so you do not need massive performance at home only a proper internet line!

Count me in

It should be like Flight Simulator. And on a big server where you play with many other people, just like World of Warcraft, and then you have to earn experience to get you further.  ;D
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on September 01, 2011, 05:55:39 PM
It could be awesome if there was a air simulation game. Where it's MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) on some big servers, just like games such as World of Warcraft.

Check out VATSIM, it is like what you mentioned but minus the role playing. A large network of pilots and controllers on a server together. Plus it's free.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: MRFREAK on September 03, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
Check out VATSIM, it is like what you mentioned but minus the role playing. A large network of pilots and controllers on a server together. Plus it's free.

Cool, i might check it out  ;)
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on September 04, 2011, 03:12:01 PM
Cool, i might check it out  ;)

http://www.vatsim.net/ (http://www.vatsim.net/)

Follow this URL and go to your regional division for the country you wish to join. Only piece if software you will need is called SquawkBox - it's free.

[Mods hope this is okay sharing this link, if not do the deed]

MRFREAK, if the link is deleted simply search VATSIM.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Maarten Otto on October 10, 2011, 12:59:37 PM
It should be like Flight Simulator. And on a big server where you play with many other people, just like World of Warcraft, and then you have to earn experience to get you further.  ;D

As your based in Denmark I think the IVAO network has more on offer for you then Vatsim has.
But remember... South of Paris... ATC is crap.  ;)
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on October 10, 2011, 02:29:40 PM
Anyone flying the PMDG 737NGX then? I bought it, but am yet to set up FSX and fly it as I am doing a fresh install on my new 120GB SSD.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Maarten Otto on October 10, 2011, 04:58:48 PM
Sorry mate... I'm with iFly 737NG
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on October 10, 2011, 07:22:43 PM
Sorry mate... I'm with iFly 737NG

That the FS9 one? I remember flying it and was impressed it was an improvement over the original PMDG 737.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: Maarten Otto on October 15, 2011, 07:29:25 PM
FS9 and FSX
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: swiftus27 on October 15, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
I just spent a bundle on a gaming rig so I can finally run FS properly.

Quad Core overclocked 3.9 (8mb cache), 16gb RAM,  with dual 460s with SLI enabled...

I am going triple monitor.  I will take a picture when I finally get is set up.  When is MS Fly coming out?
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: ArcherII on October 15, 2011, 07:52:50 PM
I just spent a bundle on a gaming rig so I can finally run FS properly.

Quad Core overclocked 3.9 (8mb cache), 16gb RAM,  with dual 460s with SLI enabled...

I am going triple monitor.  I will take a picture when I finally get is set up.  When is MS Fly coming out?


Never.


Although MS Flight will do someday  :D
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on October 16, 2011, 05:10:34 PM
Never.


Although MS Flight will do someday  :D

And when it does, stick to FSX, because after 5 years that product has only just matured.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: swiftus27 on October 16, 2011, 06:45:39 PM
Except that MS isnt offering any support after the last Service Pack.

I will be making this into an FS MONSTER!  I don't want to go too nuts and get gauges and all, I just want to have a yoke, throttle, and pedals when I am done.  For now I can use my old thrustmaster.  That thing was amazing.  I have rudder control by twisting it.  Too bad MS doesn't really make FS joysticks like they used to.

Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: alexgv1 on October 16, 2011, 07:23:51 PM
Except that MS isnt offering any support after the last Service Pack.

I will be making this into an FS MONSTER!  I don't want to go too nuts and get gauges and all, I just want to have a yoke, throttle, and pedals when I am done.  For now I can use my old thrustmaster.  That thing was amazing.  I have rudder control by twisting it.  Too bad MS doesn't really make FS joysticks like they used to.



Hehe a bit like I did with my rig 2 years ago. I have a Thrustmaster also, pretty nice bit of kit it's nice to have the HOTAS. Pedals or a split throttle quadrant would be my next wish. Or an iPad to use as an EFB and CDU, but we'll see what my 21st birthday brings on that one.

It's sad that MS isn't offering any support and that there will be no further development, but I don't know if there is a real need. Sure pity that it is stuck back in DX9 (DX10 preview only reduces performance) and other things I suppose. So many 3rd party companies make enhancements for the simulation, and most seem to be switching from FS9 to FSX this year so finally it is getting the development it needs.
Title: Re: Flight simulator software for PC
Post by: ArcherII on October 17, 2011, 04:18:24 PM
And when it does, stick to FSX, because after 5 years that product has only just matured.

Wholeheartedly agree. Too much money put on FSX as an OS for lots of addons, it would make switching to MS Flight overnight a financial mess.