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Author Topic: Empty Weight depending on seating  (Read 134 times)

Online dandan

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Empty Weight depending on seating
« on: March 15, 2019, 08:50:15 AM »
Summary: Seat configurations should affect plane empty weight & resulting payload calculations.

Current situation: Every passenger is considered payload, equivalent to 95kg of payload. Seats though are not counted as weight.

Example: It does not matter if a specific plane has 100 or 150 seats, range or possible payload does not get affected by that. So of course, that sounds ridiculous, but even the most modern economy-seats have a weight of about 10kg. Lie-flat Biz/First-Seats weigh in at 100-150kg. Multiplying that with 10, 15 seats, it makes for 100 to 150kg, or even ten times as much if it is business class seats.

Requested situation: Empty weight should be with a standard seat-config. Seats should have specific weights, depending on their comfort-level of course, and on the "era" - maybe make new seats with weight-savings every few years. Maybe also make seat-levels availble with time: no lie-flats in the 50ies and 60ies or so.
Modification: Plus maybe some extra weight to consider for premium service classes: if one is offering first, its additional weight, if one is offering business, its additional weight (to account for extra galley-space etc.).

Would go well with this earlier proposal:,78381.msg461762.html#msg461762
« Last Edit: March 15, 2019, 02:06:23 PM by dandan »

Offline Tha_Ape

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Re: Empty Weight depending on seating
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 09:52:07 AM »
Back to rattan seats! ;D

Online gazzz0x2z

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Re: Empty Weight depending on seating
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 03:31:13 PM »
or expliseat. Would be costlier than HD, but 5 kg lighter.

Online Zobelle

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Re: Empty Weight depending on seating
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 03:42:40 PM »
Hammocks are lighter and allow for ready conversion to cargo spec, lol,

Online dandan

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Re: Empty Weight depending on seating
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 04:52:32 PM »
well, yes, i guess you get the idea: give options with advantages and disadvantages; passenger comfort/price/weight, with date&time being part of the equation.


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