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Author Topic: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet  (Read 154 times)

Offline dandan

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[-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« on: February 08, 2019, 09:09:01 PM »
Hello! I have what appears to me can only be a bug. GW4, DanDan Albania. I tried adding a second fleet type (BAe Jetstreams)

Fleet commonality costs:
146 only: 202+117=319
Jetstream only: 40+77=117
146+Jetstream: 338+109+84+140=671 >>> Yes, I got a 50% penalty for flying two fleets!

My HR office:
146 only: 143
Jetstream only: 41
146+Jetstream: 230 >>> 25% penalty on adding second fleet.

Now that doesnt seem right to me. Is it?
« Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 09:14:51 PM by Sami »

Offline Sami

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Re: Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019, 09:14:42 PM »
There have been no changes in the fleet commonality system for a long time (update is pending at some point in the future).

With a fleet of only 4 aircraft adding another group is relatively more expensive.

Offline Tha_Ape

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Re: Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 09:38:10 PM »
With a fleet of only 4 aircraft adding another group is relatively more expensive.

I get it, but that's precisely the problem:
 - a player in any large/medium airport will have no problem expanding with one type until he has 15 planes and a good profitability -> useless penalty
 - a player in a tiny airport like Dani in Tirana has to diversify real fast. Options are really few, and 2 fleet groups almost mandatory even under 15 planes -> killing penalty while no other choice
:-\

Offline Zobelle

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Re: Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 10:19:46 PM »
There have been no changes in the fleet commonality system for a long time (update is pending at some point in the future).

With a fleet of only 4 aircraft adding another group is relatively more expensive.

Hopefully some manufacturer affinity will be present in this update..

Offline groundbum2

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2019, 10:03:20 AM »
hopefully we'll have different speeds and turnaround times within a fleet group, in this update...

Simon

Offline dandan

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2019, 02:07:00 PM »
well... no wonder the world map is unpopulated! either you are in a big country and skim off all cash or you are in a small one and it just doesn’t allow you to operate reasonably.

Offline Zobelle

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2019, 02:19:35 PM »
hopefully we'll have different speeds and turnaround times within a fleet group, in this update...

Simon

Do 328/JET is still a pile regardless if this fixed or not.

Offline Tha_Ape

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2019, 02:24:31 PM »
Do 328/JET is still a pile regardless if this fixed or not.

But the DC-8 Super 70s aren't ;)
Especially now that VL combis can carry HC ;D

Offline Zobelle

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2019, 03:36:06 PM »
But the DC-8 Super 70s aren't ;)
Especially now that VL combis can carry HC ;D

Was not aware Super 70 cruise any faster than normal. However I am bothered by their very modest fuel burn and range improvements....Let’s not forget the 342 is 50% heavier and similar base engine. (Yes, 2C1 are 22k, 5C3 are 32k), yet somehow the 342 burn rate is 15% less.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 03:42:11 PM by Zobelle »

Offline dmoose42

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2019, 04:17:53 PM »
aerodynamic improvements?

Offline Zobelle

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2019, 04:21:43 PM »
I’m leaning more on disincentive to use “older” types.

Offline Tha_Ape

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2019, 04:49:21 PM »
Thrust improvement.

Offline Zobelle

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Re: [-] Exorbitant costs of 2nd fleet
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2019, 06:44:06 PM »
Thrust improvement.

Despite this, if you matched 342 fuel burn over to 8-73 fuel burn you would see an increase nearly 3hrs endurance or 1,200nm using nominal cruise speeds in AWS. This makes 70 series a true upgrade vs the laughable improvement now seen.

 

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