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Author Topic: Fleet too small PTY-YYZ  (Read 1031 times)

Offline DanDan

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Fleet too small PTY-YYZ
« on: August 06, 2018, 10:12:16 AM »
On the PTY-YYZ Route (GW2, currently), the B737-300/400/500 (maximum seating 189) gets a "too small" but the MD-80 series (maximum seating 172) does not.
Is this a bug? If not, why: As I understood, the maximum seating size is what matters regarding the penalty?

As said previously: could someone responsible make an explanation how and when the too small warning appears and what its effect is? These "unreal" rules do have a reason in the game, but it would be nice if everyone could know about how they work.

Offline Tha_Ape

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Re: Fleet too small PTY-YYZ
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 10:20:35 AM »
Side note: the warning doesn't mean you have the penalty. It only means that at least one of the planes of the fleet group will have the penalty. So if only the 735 has it but you fly a 733, you're fine (well, just for a couple more years).

But otherwise yes:
 - more details when scheduling a route (actual model and not whole indistinct family)
 - ability to sort routes that are served by too small planes in the "manage routes" page
 - ability to know wether it's actually impacted or not (a 735 will get it but not a 734, for example)
all this would much, much welcome.

Offline deovrat

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Re: Fleet too small PTY-YYZ
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 11:36:02 AM »
I thought the average seating capacity of your planes in that fleet matters too.. e.g. if someone flies 100x 733, 100x 734 and 2x 735 he might not get a penalty, but someone flying 20x 735 might end up getting one.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Offline Tha_Ape

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Re: Fleet too small PTY-YYZ
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2018, 11:55:03 AM »
I believe (not certain) that what matters for a fleet type to be impacted is the average max HD seating of all planes within the family:

   1x132 (735)
 +1x149 (733)
 +1x189 (734)
 =   470


So this number will define the family's "vulnerability".
(combis are not taken into account -> indeed, at some point there was a real mess with the DC-8 as almost each make has a combi variant, then Sami excluded them from the calculation).

Offline DanDan

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Re: Fleet too small PTY-YYZ
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2018, 12:12:20 PM »
hahahaha... this is what i mean. wouldnt it be nice if there would be a summary?

especially for these rules that are not really logical (just made up to enhance gameplay). in real life, this "too small" rule against frequency bombing is "substituted" by a more price sensitive customer. add to that, that demand can go from one weekday to another in real life.


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