Techstop - same stopover on return

Started by Hillians, May 11, 2018, 11:54:29 AM

Hillians

Hi

Most players when they create a techstop route will use the same stopover airport on their outbound and inbound journey. It's frustrating that we have to search 2x (especially when scheduling from mobile devices).

Hence I was wondering if there would be an option to create a "same stopover airport on return leg" button which would automatically select the same airport. If the button isn't ticked then people can still search in case they want an alternative option.

This would prevent doing the search again.

Thanks for considering this.

Fred


VizeL

I agree, although a minor "feature" it is a huge quality of life fix. I've had to go back on that page many times to add the return tech stop -- especially the first times as I did not know you had to select a return one.

schro

Or... if you use the URL side of things, you can already do this.

Let's suppose you want to do EGLL-USNN-RJTT.

Normally, when you click on the "Open Route" button, it would take you to https://www.airwaysim.com/game/routes/open/EGLL/RJTT

Then, to add the techstop, just append the two stops you want (this only works for the first techstop of a route)-

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/routes/open/EGLL/RJTT/USNN/USNN

This will lead you to the open route page/add tech stops page with USNN as a techstop in both directions. This will also work from your mobile phone.

<drops mic>


Hillians

Quote from: schro on May 11, 2018, 03:10:32 PM
Or... if you use the URL side of things, you can already do this.

Let's suppose you want to do EGLL-USNN-RJTT.

Normally, when you click on the "Open Route" button, it would take you to https://www.airwaysim.com/game/routes/open/EGLL/RJTT

Then, to add the techstop, just append the two stops you want (this only works for the first techstop of a route)-

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/routes/open/EGLL/RJTT/USNN/USNN

This will lead you to the open route page/add tech stops page with USNN as a techstop in both directions. This will also work from your mobile phone.

<drops mic>

I knew about this but would still prefer an interface that does it instead. Don't want my browser history to fill up with these route creations.

wilian.souza2

I think this feature is useless, since there are alternative ways to do what the feature intends just as fast. Besides, not everybody has the same need to add techstops at the same place and this feature would get in the way of tese people. I have created one route with techstops at different airports and a good number of other routes that were techstopped only on one of the legs.

Hillians

Quote from: wilian.souza2 on May 11, 2018, 05:28:32 PM
I think this feature is useless, since there are alternative ways to do what the feature intends just as fast. Besides, not everybody has the same need to add techstops at the same place and this feature would get in the way of tese people. I have created one route with techstops at different airports and a good number of other routes that were techstopped only on one of the legs.

it wouldn't get in the way.. people who would want different tech stops could still go about it..

QuoteHence I was wondering if there would be an option to create a "same stopover airport on return leg" button which would automatically select the same airport. If the button isn't ticked then people can still search in case they want an alternative option.

similar to how we have a button to create 7day scheduling routes (ie 7 individual routes, 1 for each day).. if you don't tick that box you don't create 7 separate routes.
I would envisage a similar setup.


Cardinal

Bumping this since the addition of cargo has created a much larger need for tech stops as you now see so many 737 Classics making globe-trotting cargo runs.

An option on the Open New Route page to make your outbound tech stop automatically selected for the return would save a LOT of clicks.

One thing to add to the above conversation is double tech stops. As soon as you select a second outbound tech stop the "both ways" check box wording and functionality gets changed to "apply same tech stops in reverse order on return".

To avoid conflicts, the "both ways" check box and the return tech stop selection should invalidate each other. Which ever one you select first hides the other.

groundbum2

+1 for this.

A simple code change that would save innumerable key clicks would be for the default region when setting up tech stops to be "entire world". Let's face it, if we're making tech stops the odds are we're travelling off our continent. This is an "order by" statement on a bit of SQL somewhere, 2 minutes!

I'd also love it if the box in tech stops where we type in the airport name could also accept input such as

"cyev,uhma" and realise that two valid airport codes are in there and just add the two tech stops without any more clicking. And if it also did the reverse automatically that would be heaven. Eliminates like 20 keystrokes. After a while we know our favourite tech stops for each country pair. or put "cyev,uhma,R" meaning add the Reverse tech stops.

Simon

Mort

Quote from: schro on May 11, 2018, 03:10:32 PM
Or... if you use the URL side of things, you can already do this.

Let's suppose you want to do EGLL-USNN-RJTT.

Normally, when you click on the "Open Route" button, it would take you to https://www.airwaysim.com/game/routes/open/EGLL/RJTT

Then, to add the techstop, just append the two stops you want (this only works for the first techstop of a route)-

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/routes/open/EGLL/RJTT/USNN/USNN

This will lead you to the open route page/add tech stops page with USNN as a techstop in both directions. This will also work from your mobile phone.

<drops mic>

If you truly want to be able to mic drop, you need to add two tech stops in the URL, like this  ;)

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Routes/Open/RJTT/KJFK

Becomes:

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Routes/Open/RJTT/KJFK/UHMM,CYEV/CYEV,UHMM

Et voila, two pre-filled tech stops!

<drops mic>

groundbum2

methinks we just got "entire world" as the default for tech stops - thanks Sami!

Simon

DanDan

Quote from: groundbum2 on June 27, 2019, 10:13:06 AM
methinks we just got "entire world" as the default for tech stops - thanks Sami!

Simon

good god! i think Sami is playing Santa Clause for midsummer  ???

Mort

I still find it far easier just typing in the codes into the URL  ;D

But definitely a well thought out QoL change for sure.