Is Turkey not a part of Europe?

Started by mr.borak1990, August 16, 2017, 06:19:34 AM

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Sort of, you could argue they just make the places the British, French et al have already been and just make things worse.

mr.borak1990

Quote from: Sami on August 16, 2017, 04:56:24 PM
Cyprus is in Europe, absolutely no question about that (???). Turkey as a whole is classified in Asia for reasons said before.

No changes are made/planned to this.

Dear Sami,

I dont agree with you.

Turkey is EXACTLY European country and EU negotiation is still continuing.
Could you say to me, If Turkey is not Europe why this negotiation have between EU.

As you know Turkish  Airlines has been choosen EUROPE BEST AIRLINE six times in a row 2011-2016 by Skytrax
Turkish Airlines is national carrier of Turkey therefore Turkey is European.

I think, I already proof my request.

DannyWilliams

Quote from: mr.borak1990 on August 17, 2017, 09:03:25 AM
As you know Turkish  Airlines has been choosen EUROPE BEST AIRLINE six times in a row 2011-2016 by Skytrax
Turkish Airlines is national carrier of Turkey therefore Turkey is European.

I think, I already proof my request.
Are you saying that Turkey is a part of Europe based out of the fact that a Turkish carrier won an award???
This is officially the most confusing statement i've ever heard in my life :-\

gazzz0x2z

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The trouble is that Europe as a political entity and Europe as a continent are not the same. Turkey might one day be part of the EU(though probably not with its current leadership, but it's the kind of things that change over time), but 97% of its landmass is geographically not in Europe.

In other words :there is no "good" answer. Putting it 100% in Asia makes the game simpler to use, so I like the way it is - but it does not mean I'm right. There is no right setup over there.

Tujue

Quote from: Danny Williams on August 17, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Are you saying that Turkey is a part of Europe based out of the fact that a Turkish carrier won an award???
This is officially the most confusing statement i've ever heard in my life :-\
Azerbaijan won the Eurovision Song Contest once, does that make them European either 😂
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mr.borak1990

Quote from: Danny Williams on August 17, 2017, 09:23:20 AM
Are you saying that Turkey is a part of Europe based out of the fact that a Turkish carrier won an award???
This is officially the most confusing statement i've ever heard in my life :-\

If you read above of this statement there is writing, EU negotiation is still continue.
You believe or not but Turkey is European in reality.

Amelie090904

Quote from: TK1244 on August 17, 2017, 10:07:37 AM
Azerbaijan won the Eurovision Song Contest once, does that make them European either 😂

That's because Azerbaijan is part of the European Broadcasting Union which happens to organize the event (there are other members such as Israel, Georgia, Armenia, even Kazakhstan I believe). And guess what, Australia is participating too! Is Australia part of Europe? Of course it is!

DannyWilliams

Quote from: mr.borak1990 on August 17, 2017, 10:16:35 AM
If you read above of this statement there is writing, EU negotiation is still continue.
You believe or not but Turkey is European in reality.
And like Gaz stated above, there is a difference between being a part of the European Union and the country itself being based on the European CONTINENT... Clearly you can not negotiate yourself a spot on another continent...

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Quote from: mr.borak1990 on August 17, 2017, 09:03:25 AM
Dear Sami,

I dont agree with you.

Turkey is EXACTLY European country and EU negotiation is still continuing.
Could you say to me, If Turkey is not Europe why this negotiation have between EU.

As you know Turkish  Airlines has been choosen EUROPE BEST AIRLINE six times in a row 2011-2016 by Skytrax
Turkish Airlines is national carrier of Turkey therefore Turkey is European.

I think, I already proof my request.

The EU Parliament has voted to suspend negotiations, I'd hardly say that was still continuing. Europe for the most part is a construct of time and history in terms of Cartography. Political integration is not showing that any country is part of Europe. There are some Central Asia countries like Azerbaijan are politically in Europe, being allowed to be members of the Council of Europe. Still doesn't make them geographically part of Europe by what convention says is the boundary.

The Airline award is probably allowed because much of Turkish Airlines operations are based a Ataturk Airport, which is technically just in Europe so Skytrax probably see it as reasonable to allow that classification.

Convention of mapping says 97% of Turkey is not in Europe, therefore it's classification as Asian makes much sense. Where possible it makes sense for the sake of ease to have countries classified as one single continent and for the sake of 1 airport, makes sense that Turkey stays as it is. There are 40 or so other airports which are definitely not in Europe elsewhere in Turkey.

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Can this topic be locked before it escalates in some bulls*** political thread?

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Oh yeah, I forgot to add "Let's leave this and move on!"



Sami

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Quote from: mr.borak1990 on August 17, 2017, 09:03:25 AM
I dont agree with you.

Turkey is EXACTLY European country and EU negotiation is still continuing.
Could you say to me, If Turkey is not Europe why this negotiation have between EU.

"Turkey, by land mass, is positioned 95% in Asia and 5% in Europe."

The classification is based on geography only, so it makes no difference what airline has been voted by whom, or who negotiates with who.. (and like already mentioned a dozen times really, the remaining 5% remains classified as Asia for game play / usability purposes - Russia is the only country that is "split in half").

Simple as that - thread locked.