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Author Topic: Transatlantic 737- am I crazy?  (Read 515 times)

Offline rntair

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Transatlantic 737- am I crazy?
« on: November 24, 2016, 03:04:48 PM »
My airline in BW1 has a fleet of 16 737s many of which operate transatlantic routes. I am based out of IAD, and I fly 737s to Aberdeen, Bristol, Lisbon, Faro, Barcelona, Hanover, Hamburg, Cologne, London Stansted, Geneva.

They are all leased and under 7 years in age. Everything I can find says that this is a terrible idea and I should be bleeding cash. But my airline is making $10 million a week? Odd.

Could it be because all of these routes don't trigger the "too small" warning?

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Offline gazzz0x2z

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Re: Transatlantic 737- am I crazy?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2016, 03:35:01 PM »
Crazy, not, but optimized, even less. Short range line for single-aisle aircraft are much better in the early phases of life of a company, because they yield more immediate income. That, and transatlantic 737 routes are not making that much money. You are in BW, so "too small penalty" is a joke - this allows you to fly on routes that would kill your demand in real game worlds.

In current GW3, in 2023, the demand between Dulles & Aberdeen is 600/700. The limit demand for a 737 before kicking in the "too small penalty" is around 220 demand. And the distance is around 2000NM. Clearly, in a real game world, you'd be dead.

That being said, I'm doing quite a few transatlantic routes from JFK with 737s. With specific route profiles : demand between 130 & 180. Below, it's not enough to increase prices. Above, the too small penalty is threatening. I've got 5 routes tu the UK, for example, with daily income between 55 & 85M$. Btu the trick is : not all expenses are counted there. My 737 earn between 350k$ and 550 k$ a week, there. And they are bought. Take off 300k$ per week of staff and marketing costs, and you'll notice that it's not a very profitable business model, in a real game. I'm not losing money, but I'm doing my big bucks on more traditional route profiles. Those transatlantic lines are just here for fun.

TL;DR : don't try it on a real game world, especially while beginning a new company. Keep this for when you are already very profitable.

Offline JumboShrimp

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Re: Transatlantic 737- am I crazy?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2016, 03:49:48 PM »
On thin routes, under 200 pax, you should be ok.  But you will have problems when the demand goes up from there, to > 250 pax, and especially when someone else flies a widebody against your 737


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