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Author Topic: [ok] 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A  (Read 856 times)

Offline [SC] - King Kong

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[ok] 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:49:47 AM »
Hey there,
Not sure if we're talking about a bug or plain accounting and inflation since thats where the problem is probably.
Story: Ordered 50 732A years ago. 80% prepaid so 1.7 million is to be paid on delivery.

Now I wanted to increase the prepay to 100% since D checks are about the same time. Suddenly 8 million is deducted from my account.
Screen attached:

My question:
What will I pay in the end? 1.7 or 8 million since it makes quite a difference to me when they're delivered.If so, I agreed with the terms made in 1969 which state what I paid and what I should pay on delivery...
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 02:42:20 PM by Sami »

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Re: 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 11:20:36 AM »
If you edit the order, the new terms are displayed there, and that's the final. If you do not edit, then it's the terms you signed up when you originally ordered them.

Other than that, cannot comment yet.

However, the editor cannot calculate everything backwards fully, so it's fully possible that the difference is due to inflation which is quite high at these years. But would have to test myself first...

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Re: 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 01:58:16 PM »
I will let you know in a game year what the outcome of my question will be. Lets hope for the low  ::)

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Re: 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 08:14:06 AM »
No, there's no question of uncertainty about it. If you do not edit it, it's the same deal what you signed up for. If you edit it, it's the terms you see on the edit page .. can't be anything else than either of those two.

(For the issue/question itself, haven't tested yet.)

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Re: 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 02:11:38 PM »
Difference is caused by a system limitation.

Test pattern: Ordered 50x B732Adv in 07-1966, deliveries from 13-Oct-1968 to 09-Jan-1975. 80/20% prepurchase. Discounts: Large order discount (20%), Direct purchase discount (4%), Launch customer for a new model (10%). Prices per plane: On order 4 222 520 USD, On delivery 1 055 630 USD. Default inflation level (new system in 2017).

Right after order is made, edit the order and change the last plane's payment to 100% instead:
    Price to be paid now: 3 451 290 USD
    New price on delivery: 0 USD     (-1 055 630 USD)

Fast forward to 01-Feb-1974 and edit last of the order again, with 100% payment:
    Price to be paid now: 6 960 710 USD
    New price on delivery: 0 USD     (-1 055 630 USD)

No changes in the price specifications / list price of the aircraft in between. Inflation index in 07-1966 is 17.04 and in 02-1975 index is 24.75.

Most of the difference, the 2.4mil in the case of 1966 edit is because the system does not store the orders as a whole but instead of single production slots with price data. This means that the total discount information of the order is not stored and the system cannot calculate backwards if you got the launch customer discount or the large order discount, since it simply does not have that data.

Rest of the difference, 1966 vs 1975 edit, is caused by inflation.

Looking if the discount data could be stored for future orders.

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Re: 1.7 of 8 million to pay the last 20% of my 732A
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 02:42:14 PM »
And now updated so that the discounts are stored, applicable only to new orders, effective later this week.

Order edit in 1966:
    Price to be paid now: 1 562 730 USD
    New price on delivery: 0 USD     (-1 055 630 USD)

(nb. the +500k comes from built-in penalties for editing the order etc)

Order edit in 1974:
    Price to be paid now: 4 208 450 USD
    New price on delivery: 0 USD     (-1 055 630 USD)

(high inflation causing the main difference)

 

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