Started by Infinity, September 25, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: swiftus27 on November 07, 2012, 05:08:01 PMSorry if having guns is an issue to so many of you. You can tell we misuse them as millions of blacks fled to the streets shooting ak 47s into the air celebrating Obama's victory. Europe has more civil unrest following a soccer match than the usa did following sandy.
Quote from: swiftus27 on November 07, 2012, 06:17:56 PMSarcasm, sir. We're not in a 3rd world country here where the discharge of a few clips is acceptable... People here didn't squeeze a few rounds into the sky.
Quote from: saftfrucht on November 07, 2012, 03:58:43 PMGermany had a severe flooding in 2002. Not a single case of looting. Case closed.
Quote from: [SC] Gregory House, M.D. on November 07, 2012, 07:56:04 PMTo think "we" are "better" than Americans (or Indians or crab guys from Mars) is even more stupid.
Quote from: saftfrucht on November 07, 2012, 09:34:59 PMWhere did I ever say that?
Quote from: saftfrucht on November 07, 2012, 10:28:05 PMI'm not wrong, I just don't have all day to search for links that prove my point, as you obviously do.
Quote from: saftfrucht on November 07, 2012, 10:28:05 PMAgain, I'm not convincing anyone here (nor would I if I did have links to all my statements) so I'm out of this. It just leads to nothing.
Quote from: [SC] Gregory House, M.D. on November 07, 2012, 10:30:48 PMPlease change your country flag to France.
Quote from: Admiral Flight Commander Major General Chad Studdington KBE on November 06, 2012, 08:38:13 PMWell here we go, like I said it was a random example. How about Type 1 diabetes, which can hit anyone of any lifestyle or age? Or Cancer? Or Parkinsons? Or MS? Or cerebal palsy? Or heart conditions? Any congenital disorder?These will all cost money, a lot of money. A chronic disorder would seriously affect anyone on a normal wage. That's what social healthcare is for, to pay and help when life has kicked someone in the balls. That's why it should be part of the basics of any civilised nation. And that frankly sick quote in the middle, "the recipients don't deserve the same exact care", that's just downright wrong. In every way, that makes me sick to my stomach. A little quote from the NHS constitution; "You have the right to access NHS services", that means anyone. Everyone is human and everyone deserves healthcare.
Quote from: exchlbg on November 06, 2012, 11:13:42 PMSeems we also pay more taxes than Americans, but that gives the state the possibility to take care of desaster security, such as building dikes,for example. Sorry, I have to mention that, but leaving a city like New York totally unsecured of high tides (although predicted for years),is something that´s an American speciality ,too. Hamburg was diked in, London has a barrier, the whole Netherlands are diked.You just can´t just let everything to private initiative. It´s a task for the state. He has to be funded for that.
Quote from: ucfknightryan on November 07, 2012, 02:56:41 AM2.) Claiming that half the people in this country pay no taxes is disingenuous. That's only for Federal Income Tax, and does not include Social Security Taxes or Medicare Taxes. Just because they have different names does not mean they aren't taxes. Since the government doesn't actually segregate that revenue in any way the distinction is fairly meaningless, they are all federal taxes that fund the government. If you include those the number that pay nothing is somewhere around 17% currently and was around 14% before the economy tanked. If you are seriously arguing that the country is going bankrupt because we don't collect any taxes from the bottom 17% of income earners you obviously have no idea what the income distribution curve in this country looks like. You could take all their money and no one would notice the difference in the federal budget.Secondly even if you want to artificially limit it to the Federal Income Tax, the number has only been almost half during the last 2-3 years, while we have had high unemployment, wages are depressed, and the government has implemented lots of temporary tax breaks. It was around 40% before the economy tanked.
Quote from: saftfrucht on November 07, 2012, 11:44:14 AMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWMxFGhgVuANuff said.
Quote from: [SC] Gregory House, M.D. on November 07, 2012, 10:30:48 PMRunning away because your "points" were proven wrong? Please change your country flag to France.
Quote from: JumboShrimp on November 07, 2012, 11:47:22 PMType 2 diabetes is entirely self inflicted desease, and it is not from the big mac, but more from the fries and big gulp coke that comes with it.Basically excessive carbohydrate intake causes Type 2 diabetes. Governt prescription for "healthy" diet? A high carb diet that will lead to diabetes in the entire population. It used to take life time to acquire Type 2 diabetes. Now there are teenagers with Type 2 diabetes... How much will they cost over their lifetime? And who will pay?
Quote from: Admiral Flight Commander Major General Chad Studdington KBE on November 08, 2012, 05:03:03 PMYes that does mean taking taxes but honestly, I'd rather have access to healthcare than a nicer car or bigger house.