Started by edidiot, January 05, 2009, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: sami on March 05, 2012, 12:23:24 AMWhat do you think about following ...The airports have the threefold classification in demand today: domestic, longhaul, shorthaul. Should this be kept as a baseline in the future too?Meaning that you cannot fly longhaul from an airport that has in real life only 100% domestic demand for example? I have done some number crunching and this would reduce the need of calculations (number of possible route pairs) quite heavily. But on the other hand it may limit the whole idea of the free demand too much - when you for example cannot start to fly domestic services to some airport that in real life gets only for example shorthaul intl. traffic.So perhaps the three-level classification could be expanded somehow to provide a bit of user freedom .. but how to do that maintaining the realism and without needing to manually go through the airport data....(with the present dom/intl/long traffic allocation in place there are about 1 000 000 different airport pair route combination possibilities that techniclly can have some demand)
Quote from: L1011fan on March 06, 2012, 08:03:30 PMI would just like to request more passenger demand from KDAL during the current DOTM game
Quote from: sami on March 05, 2012, 12:23:24 AMThe airports have the threefold classification in demand today: domestic, longhaul, shorthaul. Should this be kept as a baseline in the future too?Meaning that you cannot fly longhaul from an airport that has in real life only 100% domestic demand for example? I have done some number crunching and this would reduce the need of calculations (number of possible route pairs) quite heavily
Quote from: JumboShrimp on March 05, 2012, 12:53:26 AMWhen speaking of airports, airport needs to have some facilities for international flights, such as customs office, passport/visa/immigration control facility. If the airport does not have it, no international flights should be allowed.
Quote from: JumboShrimp on March 05, 2012, 12:53:26 AMAs far as combinations to consider, the system should perhaps calculate only the ones that are "connected" by scheduled flights.
Quote from: JumboShrimp on March 05, 2012, 12:53:26 AMAs far as international airports not allowed domestic flights - my guess is that there are only handful of those, and could be flagged manually. But it would put some airports at a disadvantage (for example Narita).
Quote from: LemonButt on March 06, 2012, 01:15:15 AMI'm not sure if this helps, but most domestic airports cannot support the largest planes (with exceptions). You can fly a 747 into a small airport with a short runway if you only have a handful of passengers, but this would be pointless. The easiest way to overcome this, in my opinion, would be to have a standardized max distance avail based on max runway length.
QuoteAlso, while JumboShrimp has a good point about international airports needing customs facilities etc, you essentially have a chicken/egg problem. If a major carrier like Delta came into a smaller airport and said they wanted to fly daily flights to an international destination, you'd see a customs office pop up overnight.
Quote from: sami on March 18, 2012, 07:25:01 PMDid some checking again, and if we use the present-day demand allocation (DOM, SH, LH) we end up with about 950 000 route combinations that can have demand more than 0 pax (don't say they have, but with settings and demand allocation in mind, it would be possible). This figure is bearable taking into account the required update interval.
Quote from: sami on March 19, 2012, 08:15:17 PMAlmost finished with the data editor for square data ... this is the data collection tool ("crowdsourcing")...Feel free to take a look but note that you cannot add any data yet.https://www.airwaysim.com/Cityeditor/I will need to test and add some data myself and (STILL) investigate if it's feasible at all, and so forth. And also to create documentation on how to input the data. (built this editor since I hate to input manually any test data, and if go-ahead is given, then it can be used for the crowdsourcing too.)Please let me know what else you think is necessary to be included and any wishes on the interface to make it as smooth as possible.
Quote from: sami on March 20, 2012, 07:51:40 AM#4) No idea where that is, but if the box has only an island (or 2-4 adjacent boxes are part of the same island) and no links to anywhere in main continent from that island then it's "isIsland".
Quote from: Dasha on March 20, 2012, 08:37:22 AMWouldn't Amsterdam be annihilated with City based demand? I mean Schiphol is a big airport but only because of the transfers happening there. As a city, Amsterdam doesn't play any role in the world so the demand from or to Amsterdam is not very big. Am I missing something about the whole city based demand or....Just a bit worried that some airports would no longer become attractive (like Baku, Tashkent, stuff like that)