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Author Topic: Passengers and C class  (Read 1047 times)


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Passengers and C class
« on: June 01, 2011, 02:05:05 PM »
It seems to me that passengers prefer single Y class aircraft.

On the same route:
727-200 with Y only and lower CI had 75-80% load factor
727-200 after C and Y classes has 60-65% LF in Y.

Is this normal?

Offline LemonButt

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Re: Passengers and C class
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 02:43:45 PM »
RI also is a factor as well as time of day, seating type (high density, standard), and price of course.  The all Y aircraft may have lower prices and better seating while departing during a preferable time of day.  Post more details and I'm sure we can figure it out...


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Re: Passengers and C class
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 03:24:35 PM »
Both routes are the same (its the same aircraft, same route), the only difference is that the aircraft got new seats. Before it was a 162Y (normal Y seats), now its 15C, 144Y (normal C and Y seats). So for the Y the only difference is that it has less seats...but it gets less LF.

Offline Sami

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Re: Passengers and C class
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 07:23:32 PM »
Same price and same dep and arr times too?

Offline MidlandDeltic

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Re: Passengers and C class
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 01:05:15 PM »
Maybe just not enough C demand on the route?  One of my core routes started with all Y seating (at beginning of game) - upgrading the aircraft had no significant effect on LF but a big effect on the bottom line as about 10% of the pax were paying 30% more for their seats as C demand was good.  At the end of the day, profit is more important than LF (IMHO).

What are your separate Y and C load factors on the route management page?



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Re: Passengers and C class
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 07:41:06 PM »
Perhaps because the load factor is calculated as an average of Y and C class.

LF=sold seats/available seats.

After re-configuration:
LF=(sold seats C/available seats C)*(sold seats Y/available seats Y)

Mathematically this weighs both seat classes with the factor 1.0. Now it is a classic cost calculation discussion how this should now be weight.

E.g. LF=[(sold seats C/available seats C)*0.15]*[(sold seats Y/available seats Y)*0.85]

This will probably result in different LFs, although the pax demand will not change significantly.



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