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Author Topic: [-] Plane Model Missing  (Read 2123 times)

altmants

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[-] Plane Model Missing
« on: January 18, 2011, 05:09:37 AM »
Currently the game has the A330-200 which has a range about 6700NM.

Airbus also offers the A330-200HGW which has a range about 7200NM
« Last Edit: November 15, 2012, 05:51:06 PM by sami »

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 06:11:54 AM »
The models are inserted as per Airbus docs/data, and I did not find information of such model. If you have it, pls link it.

(= what is MTOW & ZFW for that)

altmants

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 07:59:50 AM »
http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-200/

"A higher takeoff weight capability of 238 tonnes has been developed by Airbus for the A330-200 with no increase in the aircraft’s empty weight – giving it an endurance of 7,250 nautical miles or an additional 3.4 tonnes of payload."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A330-200
"In May 2009, Airbus released plans for a higher gross weight version of the A330-200 to more effectively compete against the Boeing 787-8. This new A330 version will have a 238 t MTOW and its new range will be up to 7,250 nmi (13,300 km). The new-build A330-200HGW will have the option of an extra 3.4 tonnes of payload or an additional 330 nm range over the standard 233 tonnes A330-200s. Airbus believes the first 20 787-8s will have a 219.5 t MTOW and be limited to a 6,720 nmi (12,450 km) range, around 1,000 nmi (1,900 km) less than the figures published by Boeing.[10] Korean Air became the first customer on 27 February 2009, ordering six with deliveries starting in 2010.[11]"

Korean Air currently has 5 of them in service.

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 05:09:24 PM »
The data for A330 was probably added before the model was introduced. Have to check on this later.

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 06:39:38 PM »
Hi,


May we have the A320 family with Sharklets as from 2012?
A319 Range 6850KM
A320 Range 6150KM MTOW 78T
A321 Range 5950KM

Overall fuel consumption improvement approx. 3.5%

A320 NEO Family from 2016 decreases fuel consumption by 15% and maintenance by 20% over today's A320. Range will increase proportionally
Engines CFM Leap X and PW1000G

To be also fair is it possible to also include a 737NG with 2% fuel consumption reduction as from 2011 as per improved performance package.

Thanks and kind regards,


Mark

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 06:52:36 PM »
May we have the A320 family with Sharklets as from 2012?

Oh cool I didn't know they were bringing out the winglets on models before the NEO, thanks for the info.

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To be also fair is it possible to also include a 737NG with 2% fuel consumption reduction as from 2011 as per improved performance package.

Yes the first aircraft with the CFM-7BE engines has been released, meant to be 2% over current 737NG models and 7% overall since EIS in 1998.

(Source: http://pilotnewsmag.com/index.php/the-aircraft/item/215-boeing-737-puts-on-more-fuel-efficient-engine)

Tell us what data you will need, if any more Sami. I'm sure Mark and I can facilitate gathering this if needed.

The data for A330 was probably added before the model was introduced. Have to check on this later.

Yes it was most likely launched after, as it was only recently announced. As altmants it came about to compete with the newer Boeings.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 06:56:55 PM by alexgv1 »
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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 07:59:13 PM »
I need:
 - payload vs. range graph (NM / kg)
 - following weights in KG:  OEW, MZFW, MTOW, tank capacity (kg), max payload
 - cargo hold volume (m3, call combined; excluding overhead bins etc)

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 11:14:13 PM »
oooh, charging for overhead space is novel...

Ansettaddict123

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 07:13:18 AM »
oooh, charging for overhead space is novel...

I dont think its to do with charging peeps to use overhead; i assume its to do with the cargo module of sorts being integrated into V1.3?

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 07:14:39 AM »
I need:
 - payload vs. range graph (NM / kg)
 - following weights in KG:  OEW, MZFW, MTOW, tank capacity (kg), max payload
 - cargo hold volume (m3, call combined; excluding overhead bins etc)

Even though its handy to have; Ive never used one of these  :laugh:

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 09:42:56 AM »
The graph is needed to code all the range values. (= just saying the range of the plane is xxxx NM is not enough at all)

Offline mark320

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2011, 09:35:01 PM »
I need:
 - payload vs. range graph (NM / kg)
 - following weights in KG:  OEW, MZFW, MTOW, tank capacity (kg), max payload
 - cargo hold volume (m3, call combined; excluding overhead bins etc)

Hmmm, For the NEO it would be a tad difficult at this point since it has just been launched and no public P/R graphs are  disclosed yet. Hope you understand. However I can provide all the other figures as they are public domain.
For the Sharklets the plane remains identical in dimensions and weights (78t is the new MTOW for the A320) but a shift of 500Kg and 300nm shift at the nominal payload point at MTOW.

I hope you would be able to work out the P/R graph from this.

regards

altmants

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2011, 09:02:05 AM »
More info on the A330-200HGW

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/aircraft_types_layout/a330_200/index.jsp

Delta current operates a A330-200HGW with a range of 7200NM



MTOW: 253 238.0t / 524 700lb 7,230nm / 13,400km GE CF6-80E1 or PW4000 or RR Trent 700

Source: http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/brochures_publications/aircraft_families/A330_The_right_aircraft_leaflet.pdf
« Last Edit: January 22, 2011, 09:07:01 AM by altmants »

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2011, 11:13:07 AM »
Even though its handy to have; Ive never used one of these  :laugh:

I use them when I'm planning the seat config for my aircraft (I rarely use the defaults)


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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2011, 08:21:09 PM »
Any info about whether we are going to have the NEOs? More real airlines are on the verge of ordering them soon and it would be nice if we could have them too, makes the game more interesting since we cannot stagnate till 2020.

 

altmants

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Re: Plane Model Missing
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2011, 09:18:50 AM »
Hey Sami,

here is the Graphs Payload vs Range(for each aircraft) and MTOW for each for the a330-200

here is the technically data from airbus
http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/media_gallery/files/tech_data/AC/Airbus_AC_A330_Jan11.pdf

It is under the aircraft performance tab.

 

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