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Author Topic: A380  (Read 2185 times)

Filippo

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A380
« on: May 29, 2009, 04:03:37 PM »
I saw that the A380 800 was launched. Will the A380 700 and 900 be produced as well?

Thank-you

Offline Dan380

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Re: A380
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 09:00:53 PM »
The -900 has been "announced", but I don't think they've got it passed design phases yet, they need to secure the position and reliability of the -800 first. And the -700? I would like to see it, but I don't think it will happen. Boeing's 747-8 is in that market, and boy, isn't that one selling well....  ::)

They may come about at some point, but considering our little game ends in early 2011, I don't think we'll be seeing them enter production.

Nice suggestion though, and if we were to have a game that extended into the future, I think the -900 should definately be added.

Filippo

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Re: A380
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 08:10:01 AM »
so , we just get the A380 800?

Offline Sigma

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Re: A380
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 04:09:57 AM »
The game only includes planes that have actually flown and have real specifications; that doesn't apply to the A380-700/900, as they are hypothetical planes only.

Does it really matter anyway?

ATB ends in 2011 anyway.  Even if the -700 and -900 were in, you'd never get them in time to fly 'em since the -900 won't exist until at least 2015.

ICEcoldair881

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Re: A380
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 05:15:02 PM »
aaaaaaand the A350s don't fly until at least 2015/2016. there's only one answer: SAMI EXTEND THE ATB GAME TO 2020!!!!!! ;D

olympic17111992

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Re: A380
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 05:26:31 PM »
Really i would like a game that would start at the current period of time(real time)
I know that you can not fortell things that will happen in the future but this can be overcomed ! !

ICEcoldair881

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Re: A380
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 05:31:32 PM »
umm...there is. Air Travel Boom started in 1995 and ends in 2011. it's currently 2001, so you still have some time to evolve to what it is in real life...

NicholasB

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Re: A380
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 05:09:57 AM »
In terms of our game, do you think the a380 will be a maker or a breaker?

Just my opinion, but adding an extra 300 seats or so to routes that are all ready conjested, is going to bring alot of airlines down. Furthermore, most of the big operators are going head to head on some big routes. Will they be battling with a A380 vs A380?

Some airlines have already gone under, due to huge loans to finance their orders too. So, in terms of our game, i think the 787 would be the winner, but not sure if we will get access to it.

NicholasB

Offline Sigma

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Re: A380
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 05:41:47 AM »
In terms of our game, do you think the a380 will be a maker or a breaker?
NicholasB

Neither.

It'll barely launch before the end of the game.

If the game went on longer?  It would be useful at any location that had high-density routes but was also slot-limited, Heathrow in particular.

But, like any plane really, it's not gonna completely make or break an airline.  It'll allow you to cut seat rates a bit lower than your competition flying other planes and still yield a profit.  But the airlines that can afford it, as late as it comes into our game, are making so much money hand-over-fist in this game that that's pretty immaterial.  It'll play a bigger role if costs in the game ever get a bit more in-line with reality -- when airlines aren't making absurd 25+% net profit margins.  In the financial scenario we have now, a few percent difference in costs per seat over the competition means little.

elitemedia

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Re: A380
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 07:57:09 AM »
Well the first airlines which will receive their first A380 will have around 3/4 game years ahead, i think the A380 will certainly be a PLUS for my airline, now lets wait and see, my first A380 is due to JAN08...  ::)

toyotaboy95

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Re: A380
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 08:06:47 AM »
Will they be battling with a A380 vs A380?
That's already happening in the real world. Look at the 'Kangaroo' route where Singapore and Qantas are fighting it out (dunno about EK tho).

Offline swiftus27

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Re: A380
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 06:35:37 PM »
Large planes for the death......

The only time I would consider using a cattle car like this is if slots are extremely limited and demand is still out there.

I bankrupted an airline by getting 744Ds

Offline Dan380

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Re: A380
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 07:26:17 PM »
That's already happening in the real world. Look at the 'Kangaroo' route where Singapore and Qantas are fighting it out (dunno about EK tho).

Well you can travel LHR-SYD on an A380 the whole way with all three of them. So I guess they might be competing indirectly on that route.

ICEcoldair881

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Re: A380
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2009, 01:24:54 AM »
Large planes for the death......

The only time I would consider using a cattle car like this is if slots are extremely limited and demand is still out there.

I bankrupted an airline by getting 744Ds

well no wonder. 744Ds are the Domestic version of the B747; less range, more people. Also, not all large planes are configured in a cattle car config. most, in fact, use a rather nice configuration. Singapore Airlines, for example, has suites, first class, business class, premium economy class and economy class. for it to be a cattle car, it would have to be all economy class seats.

elitemedia

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Re: A380
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2009, 06:44:03 AM »
Just on my route WAS-LHR i can assign 3 A380's and still dont cover the pax RQ, and there are many other lines where to assign this type of aircraft, so i think my 50 A380's will not be enough....  ;)

Offline swiftus27

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Re: A380
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2009, 02:40:44 PM »
well no wonder. 744Ds are the Domestic version of the B747; less range, more people. Also, not all large planes are configured in a cattle car config. most, in fact, use a rather nice configuration. Singapore Airlines, for example, has suites, first class, business class, premium economy class and economy class. for it to be a cattle car, it would have to be all economy class seats.

Seriously, you don't think that I understand the difference between a 744 and a 744D?  Look at the demand between Sydney and Melbourne.  (in another game) they were hardly profitable for that route and there was little competition.  

Also, dont forget that the Pax in this game prefer smaller aircraft.  Sami has said it in the past.

Do the math on fuel consumption per pax versus other aircraft.  ONLY use these large planes if there is a shortage of slots and more demand.   This is why the 787 is getting so much attention in real life.

Offline A.Horvik

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Re: A380
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 02:24:54 AM »
will it be able to extend the game to 2020?

 

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