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Author Topic: WANTED A320 FAMILY  (Read 1058 times)

olympic17111992

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WANTED A320 FAMILY
« on: May 11, 2009, 07:53:23 PM »
Due to the extremely annoying fact that there are no A320 family aircraft at the used market, i would be pleased if someone had any unwanted aircraft for leasing or purchaising. If interested please contact me!!

Also a question: Can somebody tell me why too many B737-200ADV appear at the used market?
                      Also why all the time the boeing list is filled and the airbus one is not!! (used market)

The game starts to be a bit of a routine!!!

Offline Dan380

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 08:20:49 PM »
Can somebody tell me why too many B737-200ADV appear at the used market?
Also why all the time the boeing list is filled and the airbus one is not!! (used market)

1, The 737-200Adv was great for a starter plane, but now everybody's new one 737s or A320s have arrived they can terminate the leases of these old beasts.

2, The 707, 727 and 737-200 for the reasons above. Also there is a 767-300ER that some cheeky sod is trying to flog for a ridiculous price.

Offline Daveos

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 06:34:58 PM »
I dream of an A320 family too, but as they are probably the most profitable aircraft in the game for short-haul operations they get snapped up pretty quickly.  The best hope is to wait for some of the bigger airlines to go bust and get capacity on the routes you want before there's no space left.  There are always a fair few bankruptcies as competition increases and players either get bored or go on holiday/away!  Often a mega-order will kill an airline once C and D-checks arise too.

Dave :)

olympic17111992

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 07:50:43 PM »
Now i have 20 A321-100 and 10 A320-200 but my order for 20 A321-200 and 25 A319 will come after some years!!!
I hope it will not be too late !!!

pharmy

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 01:33:00 PM »
You should have chosen the MD90ER like I did, shorter queues and for an airline based in Frankfurt, the 2400 range would allow for 100s of destinations, even in Africa and the Mideast. I'm based at DXB and there's plenty routes for my 70 MD90ERs. Running out of routes now, but the 3000+ range of the 737NGs coming in now will allow me to reach Western Europe and East Asia as well. Somehow the A320 family was never that appealing to me with none of them having +3000 range.

Offline Dan380

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 02:09:00 PM »
The A320 and 73NG series aircraft have versatility in aircraft sizes. The MD-90 is just "one size fits all", which is not an efficient way to operate.

olympic17111992

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 02:30:31 PM »
The A320-200 has a range of about 2800nm which is enough!! Also by choosing the A320 FAMILY I achieved fleet commonality in a great degree!! Its also easy to schedule routes as they can be flown from every single type!!
Further more their capacity gives you the ability to make some combinations!
( like A320 + A319 = 260 Pax and so on )
Lastly i would like to mention that the more routes you schedule to one aircraft the more money you earn even if we talk about 200-400nm routes!!

pharmy

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Re: WANTED A320 FAMILY
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 03:00:36 PM »
They do come in two sizes though (of course not in commonality), the 717 is a downsized MD90. They do lack the 160-170 pax layout of the A321 and 737-800, but I usually fly them in a 134Y/4-8C pax layout which is ideal from operating from large hubs to smaller airports. I might miss out one the 30+ pax profits, but it allows for a higher L/F even if competitors encroach. And since you get them first, you can always replace them when the 737 NGs arrive (for DXB the extra 5-800miles range makes a huge difference, so the A320 family is counted out). I have about 90 737s, 30 738s, and 15 736s arriving in the next three years.

As to routes schedules, I usually schedule only one per plane 1600-2400 first leg - 1600-800 second leg (A-B-C-B-A legs), and this usually means that they fly about 75% of the time (leave lets say at 6 and arrive at 0400). Because of A checks I sometimes have to move my Saturday flights a bit earlier. With the 737s a 2800+600 approach works the same way. This allows me to get more pax demand then I would be able to get just from my hub (more potential for growth), about 40% of the pax numbers I get, I get from the B-C-B legs.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2009, 03:06:41 PM by pharmy »

 

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