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### Author Topic: 717-200HGW Number of crew question  (Read 1256 times)

#### blaker1984

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##### 717-200HGW Number of crew question
« on: May 04, 2009, 03:01:11 AM »
I was comparing aircraft in preperation for an order and I was curious as to why the A319 has a crew of 2/3 while a plane with aprox. 20 less seats has a crew of 2/4 this plane being the 717. I know most airlines have a requirement per seat but just curious if there is a reason for this as the RJ-100 at 100 seats is 2/2, the 737-600 is 2/3 at 108 seats, while the 717 is 2/4 at 106.

I bring this up because factor in 1 extra crew member times that by say a fleet of 20 planes over a year thats a good chunk of money.

Thanks for you time to all who answer.

#### Sami

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##### Re: 717-200HGW Number of crew question
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 05:03:03 AM »
I guess should really be 2/3.. Unless it's some special thingy (what I can't think of).

#### Dorito_25

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##### Re: 717-200HGW Number of crew question
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 06:20:57 AM »
It may be about the way the plane is set out. It may be 2-2 seats in each row in Business Class and 3-3 in Economy/Coach, or 2-2 and 2-3 seats in each row, or 2-2-2 and 2-3-2 seats in each row etc. I think the B717's are longer, but have less seat compacity because of the way it is set out as A319 aren't as long but have more seats.

Maybe depending on the length on the aircraft depends on the how many cabin crew there needs to be. Maybe there's a limit of rows each cabin crew need to take "control of".

I hope this helps.

#### Dan380

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##### Re: 717-200HGW Number of crew question
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 11:46:32 AM »
I believe the rule is 50 pax per cabin crew member, or the minimum needed for a sucessful evacuation, whichever is higher. It is possible the 717 was poor in evacuation and needed four cabin crew to get them all out in the time limit.

Would be interesting to see what the numbers are for the MD-80, they shouldn't be any different from the 717 (the similar capacity model anyway, MD-83?).

#### Sami

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##### Re: 717-200HGW Number of crew question
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 12:17:46 PM »
I didn't find the B717 docs right from the laptop now but 1ca per 50 seats is the general rule, true. The seating layout 2-3, 2-2, whatever, does not affect that all.

(and we're of course talking of the regulatory minimum only here, additional staff due service is diff. thing)

#### blaker1984

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##### Re: 717-200HGW Number of crew question
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 02:49:40 PM »
Yeah I went through and the MD-90's at 155 seats have 2/4, however MD-80's have 2/3 so it could be a new model thing or just a typo.lol. Generally the rule is 50 seats = 1FA at least at my airline it works that way only difference coming from class configuration where our A320's have two class and therefore 4 FA's even though we are under 150 seats. Same goes for our A319's. However our E-190's have 3 FA's for under 100 seats again having a 2 class configuration in them where 1FA is always in First class another splits both sections and 1 is in the back all the time.

I was curious though its not a massive deal to me im sure i'll probably end up ordering the plane anyways.lol. but just wanted to see if it was something with industry or just maybe a typo. I think we should call AirTran and see what they say haha. Thanks for the replies though, if its changed let me know.

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