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What is the best (=highest profit generation potential) regional jet in 2004-2020 game years?

Embraers E-170/190
47 (52.2%)
Bombardier CRJ700/900
18 (20%)
Antonov 148/158
3 (3.3%)
Fokker 70/100
8 (8.9%)
Sukhoi SSJ100 - 70/95
14 (15.6%)

Total Members Voted: 78

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Offline Andriy

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Best regional jet vote
« on: August 10, 2014, 03:18:11 PM »
please vote as well as provide some rationale

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 03:38:56 PM »
I don't believe in the concept of regional jets. *shakes head*

Offline Andriy

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 03:50:57 PM »
yeah, yeah, we all know - A380 all the way! ;D

KM449

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 03:53:57 PM »
France Air International uses Avro RJ 70. Why? Because we do it better 8)

Offline Andriy

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 03:59:29 PM »
Sorry KM, not enough slots to fit AVRO - IMHO fairly exotic plane for the game . In the real world it was built for short runways (mountains, islands, cities) but the game does not really appreciate it... thus its hard too justify its price... :(

Online schro

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 04:22:29 PM »
The BAC111 is missing from the list!

Offline Andriy

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 04:29:01 PM »
Schro, I guess you did not read the question - "What is the best (=highest profit generation potential) regional jet in 2004-2020 game years?" Its not about all time best, its about "now":)

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2014, 05:37:14 PM »
Schro is always right.

Online schro

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2014, 06:48:09 PM »
Schro, I guess you did not read the question - "What is the best (=highest profit generation potential) regional jet in 2004-2020 game years?" Its not about all time best, its about "now":)

I did read the question. Assuming the production line continues into that era, it is a rather viable option. When you look at the general economics of flying the BAC-111-500, it is unmatched until the EMB 190/195's come along which will present about a 10% reduction in overall fuel burn. However, when you compare the cost of new EMB 190/195's to the cost of the BACs, it puts them in direct competition with each other. Additionally, when you consider that BAC's will be plentiful on the used market and have good availability, the EMB 190/195 isn't even in production in 2004 (wouldn't that disqualify it if you're getting technical about reading the post?).

Offline Mr Yoda

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 07:56:29 PM »
France Air International uses Avro RJ 70. Why? Because we do it better 8)

Have to disagree with you on that one. It's got out of date technology compared to modern ones.

In my opinion SSJ 100 is the best 70-100 seater A/C because:

1) Production slots - If you order an ERJ 190 for example you'll probably have to wait for a year or more where as SSJ will be delivered to you almost instantaneously to your doorstep.

2) Less FAs - I compared the ERJ 190 with SSJ 100-95 and although the Russian one is 10 seats shy of Brazilian one it needs less FAs so less money on staff needed.

3) Price - Although there isn't much difference now, just wait for a couple of years and see how the other RJ price goes ballistic and the SSJ stays more or less the same.

4) Good performance - Fuel burn age is relatively low, Range is quite long, Not much runway needed to land on, Quite high speed.

And the only real disadvantage SSJ has is slightly higher maintenance cost but that would be able to pay itself off when the ERJ price will go up. Plus It's Russian  8)
 

Offline LemonButt

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 08:10:42 PM »
It's not the CRJ 700/900, but the CRJ 100/200/700/900/1000 which means you can scale up an operation from 50 seats to 100 with a single fleet type, making it the most flexible out of the bunch.  Based on the huge amount of flexibility you have, my vote would be CRJ.

Quantifying best = most profitable is a terrible measure as well as it doesn't take into account the number of fleet types, aircraft range, etc. and more importantly, the airport you're based out of.  You would be able to replace the E170/175/190/195 and ERJ-135/140/145 with a single fleet type using the CRJ, for example.

Solemus

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 09:04:15 AM »
I always use the Bombardiers so really no choice for me although saying that I have just started to experiment with the Embraer and looking good

Offline Kadachiman

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2014, 11:42:57 AM »
IMO you have missed the best Regional Jet for the era - Mitsubishi Regional Jet

Compares very well against all of the others you have mentioned in all categories and a great money spinner

KM449

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2014, 05:29:30 PM »
Have to disagree with you on that one. It's got out of date technology compared to modern ones.


Sorry, you are just wrong! Nothing can compete with the 4 hairdryers of the Avro  8)

Offline Andriy

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2014, 06:30:54 PM »
IMO you have missed the best Regional Jet for the era - Mitsubishi Regional Jet

Compares very well against all of the others you have mentioned in all categories and a great money spinner

Probably a great plane - but isn't it even made its first flight, both in the game and in the real life? ;D

Offline Kadachiman

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2014, 07:08:07 PM »
It makes an appearance in the game time frame you mentioned in your thread title

Offline gazzz0x2z

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 08:20:57 PM »
It makes an appearance in the game time frame you mentioned in your thread title

and its THAT good in-game???

Offline Kadachiman

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 08:31:09 PM »
I have used the MRJ extensively in previous games when it gets near the end of the game and it performs great financially.
The schedules are directly interchangeable on the SSJ and the MRJ so it also gives you an option dependant on production lines of both.

Offline Andriy

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 08:37:15 PM »
I have used the MRJ extensively in previous games when it gets near the end of the game and it performs great financially.
The schedules are directly interchangeable on the SSJ and the MRJ so it also gives you an option dependant on production lines of both.

The idea of the question was the plane for "current period" in the game - either something which is already available or coming in just couple of years. otherwise very little experience with MRJ to comment:)

Offline Andriy

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Re: Best regional jet vote
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 08:41:01 PM »
Quantifying best = most profitable is a terrible measure as well as it doesn't take into account the number of fleet types, aircraft range, etc. and more importantly, the airport you're based out of.  You would be able to replace the E170/175/190/195 and ERJ-135/140/145 with a single fleet type using the CRJ, for example.

Lemon,
"most profitable" is the best measure. If you are anywhere around managing business, you would agree with that. No one cares about turnover, efficiency, satisfaction, etc by itself - its all about how all those convert into the ability to deliver profit. If aircraft (product, service, company, etc) is great on some features but is not making profit - those features are irrelevant. Thus profit generation potential is the ultimate measurement of "best"

 

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