After reading this old thread https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php?topic=34698.0
, calculating the in-game numbers and doing research on the net, there are reasons to believe the numbers used for the V810 are off, unfortunately quite a bit too, crippling the plane.
The motivation behind this not solely that I operate a Viscount fleet in this game (I ordered Electras to expand) but more the fact that the V810, according to all sources I came apon, was a plane alot more capable than what it is able to in AWS. So maybe there is a chance its performance could be reevaluated.
First off, all sources (I wont list them all yet) refer to the V810 as an improved range
variant of the V800, attributed to the use of the RR Dart Mk 525 on that type. Yet the description used in the game (if you do not check the payload vs. range chart right away) is quite confusing, giving the impression the V810 actually has less range that the V800 when in fact it doenst. To illustrate that point, here are the numbers: (obviously the weight/ range ration calc. used produces these strange results, not sure where the game got its numbers, but more on this later)
V800 - 74
pax/ Range 420nm - 65
P/ R: 600nm - 59
P/ R: 720nm - 55
P/ R: 800nm - 49
P/ R: 920nm
V810 - 74
pax/ Range 310nm - 65
P/ R: 700nm - 59
P/ R: 950nm - 55
P/ R: 1030nm - 49
P/ R: 1080nm
Here is a look at the 700D:59
P/ R: 900nm - 55
P/ R: 1030nm - 49
P/ R: 1160nm
Its nearly impossible to get acurate pax to range ratio figures on any webpage, but one thing should be obvious: Its highly unlikely that Vickers would have been able to sell a single improved range V810, if the ratio would have been the way the game calculates it (equal at 55 P or even worse at 49 P), besides the plane was specifically designed to hold an increased
amount of pax, at least at equal the range the V700D had offered.
V70D - MTOW: 29256 - Max.Payload: 6345 - OWE: 22911
V800 - MTOW: 29256 - Max.Payload: 7629
- OWE: 21627 (keep in mind, the V800 was a 1,2m stretch over the 700, yet here it weighs 1,28t less than the former)
V810 - MTOW: 31297 - Max.Payload: 7050 - OWE: 24247 (the only difference between 800/810 are the upgraded engines used, RR 525 vs. 510/520, yet it weighs 2,6t more)
Taking these numbers into account, the V800 would have the largest range of all, yet it doesnt. Also the fact that the V810s range is 80nm less at 49 P than V70D and the sharp drop between 59 and 65 P of 250nm are very questionable. Calculating 1 pax & luggage at 100kg, the V810 would have at least the same range
as the V70D at 65 vs. 59 seats, meaning 200nm more than now, which would also increase its range at 74 P noticably.
A very interesting read is this excerpt of a book written by Heino Caesar http://books.google.de/books?id=tL4MK5DnffIC&pg=PA323&lpg=PA323&dq=viscount+810+reichweite&source=bl&ots=OCIPaWTqVq&sig=MCrCWAyhHmWpYuH5xJ9apVfslco&hl=de&sa=X&ei=o4cXU5j4AcOJtQbxv4Eo&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=viscount%20810%20reichweite&f=false
. He was a V810 copilot for Lufthansa, which operated 11 Viscounts with 64 seats from 1958 on. The book is in german, I will translates what he writes:
"The V810, at max payload (64pax) had a range of about 1900km or about 1025nm"
There is no reason to believe that he has any motivation to write down false numbers...
Another interesting read is http://www.vickersviscount.net/
, especially the history category...
I will contact them to try to get a definite answer to the range question regarding the V810
Taking into account the weights used by the game, what the LH copilot said about the plane and the many sources available incl. data from British Civil Aircraft since 1919 used by Wiki plus the fact, that not a single document points towards the V800/810 as being a short range plane (300-400nm), I suggest the range of the V810 should be adjusted to at least 900nm at 64 pax and figured up and down from there. The plane deserves a more realistic assessment of its capabilities.
I will keep investigating this case!
cheers and thanks for reading