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Author Topic: growth rate in passenger load?  (Read 1164 times)

Antob

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growth rate in passenger load?
« on: March 13, 2013, 03:11:16 PM »
It seems as if it goes faster to get fx. 80 passengers on 767 then on a 747 on to routes with exces demand for both plane types?

and Im not talking % but the actual number of passengers. Can that be true?

Offline Infinity

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 05:14:40 PM »
What?

mamba

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2013, 05:20:31 PM »

 ??? lol

ReedME

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2013, 06:11:12 PM »
O.o well... I'm guessing english isn't your first language

Antob

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2013, 06:13:51 PM »
Is it difficult to understand  :)

Offline Andre

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2013, 06:24:31 PM »
I think he's saying the growth rate in pax numbers on a B767 is quicker than on a B747, on routes where pax demand is higher than the aircraft's capacity.  :)

Antob

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2013, 06:43:38 PM »
Exactly :-)

Offline dmoose42

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 06:50:18 PM »
Are both planes on the same route?  If they are on the same route, then I agree that this is strange; however, it may be due to the time of the flights (PAX prefer daylight hours), or other competition.  If they are on different routes then there are a lot more variables that could be driving this.  Can you provide the details of the flights?

Antob

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 07:07:07 PM »
The 747 is flying SBGL demand = 280
The 767 is flying LAGT demand = 280

The route from kiad to SBGL started up first and has an average load of 65 pax and The KIAD-LAGt average is 80 pax. But of course it varies from Day to Day on both routes.






Offline alexgv1

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 07:09:21 PM »
What is the route image of each? Although strange that the older route with higher RI would have less passengers.
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Antob

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2013, 07:16:09 PM »
SBGL=20
LGAT=14

ReedME

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2013, 07:19:02 PM »
Could the age of the aircraft be a factor ?

ReedME

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2013, 07:19:27 PM »
Or the length of the route ?

Offline Sami

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2013, 07:55:49 PM »
Ticket prices, flight frequency, flight dep/arr times, competition etc, you name it. Cannot be answered with such limited data.

Antob

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2013, 08:10:42 PM »
One fligth a Day - no competetion
Landing and starting between 06.00 and 02.00
767 10 years old
747 16 years old
Ticketprice= average value


ReedME

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2013, 08:46:32 PM »
I think if he 747 is leaving at 6 am which isn't a peak time - it might get less pax due to it being an older airframe flying at a non preferred time ? As Sami said we'd need specifics

exchlbg

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2013, 09:14:31 PM »
Between 6.00 and 2.00 ? Which  aircraft is doing what?  Starting at 6.00 not optimal, landing at 2.00 bad. demand also fluctuates on a daily basis, we really need to have the big picture here. Aircraft age is nothing people consider booking flights,fleet age only affects your overall CI.

Offline Infinity

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2013, 09:15:25 PM »
One fligth a Day - no competetion
Landing and starting between 06.00 and 02.00
767 10 years old
747 16 years old
Ticketprice= average value



You only get good load factors for flights leaving and arriving between 0500 and 0000. Flights between 0500 and 0600 as well as 2300 and 0000 are subject to slight decreases, but barely noticeable. A flight arriving or leaving at 0200 will suffer greatly from that.

Antob

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2013, 09:24:58 PM »
I think I have found the answer

On two out off five days my ac's take off and lands between 06.00 and 02.00, but not at the destination airport. It is know corrected and I will wait and see.

Thanks to everyone for Your concern

exchlbg

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Re: growth rate in passenger load?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2013, 09:32:54 PM »
People don´t want to land OR depart past midnight or before dawn. Flying through the night is ok.You will have discount your fares to attract as many PAX as under optimal conditions, even more, if there´s competition with better timing.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 09:37:21 PM by exchlbg »

 

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