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Author Topic: ERJ-145's  (Read 1128 times)

Nick E.

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ERJ-145's
« on: August 22, 2012, 12:33:01 AM »
When used on routes 500-1000 NM, with around 50-70 PAX daily, can these ERJ-145 aircraft be profitable, or is it a waste of money?

Offline LemonButt

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 01:13:16 AM »
General rule of thumb is don't try to fly smaller aircraft past 10x the pax.  i.e. a 50 seater shouldn't be flown more than 500nm, 70 seater for 700nm, etc.  They are much more profitable and economically on shorter haul routes. 

Nick E.

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 01:38:42 AM »
K, Thx :)

Offline ARASKA

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2012, 01:40:02 AM »
Another rule of thumb is that CRJ 100-200s and ERJ-135/145 are a road straight to bankruptcy.

Nick E.

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 12:03:53 PM »
lol, ok.

I might give the CRJ-700/900's a shot and see what happens.

Offline LemonButt

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 02:24:39 PM »
lol, ok.

I might give the CRJ-700/900's a shot and see what happens.

I am flying crj200 profitable in NA Challenge...6 routes a day shorthaul and turning 250k+ profit/week with fuel at 800.  I am running an all crj airline though so marginal fleet commonality costs are low.

Offline Meicci

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »
I am flying crj200 profitable in NA Challenge...6 routes a day shorthaul and turning 250k+ profit/week with fuel at 800.  I am running an all crj airline though so marginal fleet commonality costs are low.

But soon you are going to ran out of those super short routes, and what then? CRJ with 4 daily flights won't probably be even profitable anymore.

Offline alexgv1

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 04:14:36 PM »
Who is to say he must expand further out to the unprofitable routes. Sure there are maybe demands 7000NM away but why serve it at a loss as many AWS players insist on (often to their demise). There are only under 100 of such routes being flown in real life. Maybe more will come with 787 as the lower costs allows them to be operated but before that why insist on flying a 767-200ER that range then complain on the forums when the fuel goes up.  :-\
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Nick E.

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 04:40:03 PM »
I'm currently using my EMB-120 fleet to cover the routes 400NM and less from my base airport, and those are earning ~200K each week, costing 100,000 per month in lease costs.

Offline LemonButt

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Re: ERJ-145's
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 06:55:33 PM »
But soon you are going to ran out of those super short routes, and what then? CRJ with 4 daily flights won't probably be even profitable anymore.

The crj200 has a couple big brothers that have 68 and 80 seats that can be profitably flown longer distances you know :)

 

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