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Author Topic: Antonov An-140 - viable?  (Read 1602 times)

mean123

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Antonov An-140 - viable?
« on: August 15, 2012, 10:09:23 PM »
Hi Guys, i was thinking of renewing my turboprop fleet and wondered if this is a viable option, I am currently using DHC 8 - 300's. The Antonov is very cheap and very similar fuel and maintenance costs if you go for the pratt and whitney option. And a plus is that this aircraft is slightly faster too. My whole fleet uses P&W engines. Do you think that this is a good option or is it better to but the double price Dash 8-Q400.

What you think guys?

Also, i want to renew my 732 fleet but cant find a decent anternative using P&W engines, will it hit me hard to get the 734 with CMF engines?

Thanks guys.

Offline Sanabas

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 10:16:46 PM »
More than viable, it's pretty good. The only downside is it's 4 years before it arrives. Saab 2000 and ATR 72 are equally good, and available sooner.

I wouldn't worry about engines if you're getting 734s from the UM. Just grab whichever ones you can find. Having multiple engine types makes only a tiny difference to your costs, and keeping old 732s will cost you much more in fuel & maintenance.

Offline Kazari

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 03:36:23 AM »
They're great planes. Like other Russian birds, they are a little expensive on maintenance, but given that they're so cheap to begin with they more than make up for that, IMO.

Offline Troxartas86

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 06:56:35 AM »
After my ongoing experience with my Russian-only Soviet Socialist Airways in DoTM and being the sole customer of both Antonov and LET in JA, I am convinced that the stigma surrounding communist aircraft is just a lie. I recently D-Checked ten Tu-134s, no sweat. As long as you carefully consider costs, you can often out-compete western planes with Russian metal.

I will be testing the 140 in NAC.

Hugamuga

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 08:16:43 AM »
I have used the An-140 multiple times and its a fantastic aircraft for short haul destinations due to the massive benefits you gain with the reduced price, but currently I would consider the Xian MA60 to be a more viable prop.
Not only because its cheaper then the P&W AN-140 and it has a size advantage (52 vs 60 seats) but also the fuel consumption is still rather good.
Another benefit is that you can get them 2 years before the AN-140.
It might also be worth mentioning that the runway requirement is rather high on the Antanov due to that large range (1500m) which means you may not be able to operate them to some airports, unlike the Xian MA60 and the Dash 8-300 (1100m and 1060m respectively).

Offline cmdrnmartin

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 02:09:58 PM »
Hawker Siddely 748.

Accept no Substitutes.

(There is a nostalgia element at work here, the Dart Engine is just an iconic piece of British Engineering.  You can hear a Hawker coming before you can see it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8nYZ-fMSHg

Offline Troxartas86

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 04:15:31 AM »
I'm using the crappy Soviet engines to cut costs.

Offline knobbygb

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Re: Antonov An-140 - viable?
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 08:02:12 PM »
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I'm using the crappy Soviet engines to cut costs.

I've used AN-140 several times - they're great.  And the Soviet engines are better IMHO.  They make the initial purchase/lease much cheaper. I don't remember the figures exactly, but I worked out that if you lease them for 8 years then fuel would have to be very high (about $1200) for the extra fuel and maintenance costs on the Motor-Sich to outweigh the extra lease of the PW engines. Those PW powered ones are almost 50% more expensive to buy.

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I would consider the Xian MA60 to be a more viable prop

I like those too. Sometimes they're actually too big - especially if you're flying small props for the frequency benefit.  But then again, with the new changes, that might not be so important.

 

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