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Author Topic: Fuel Prices  (Read 2659 times)

Offline judanssi

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2012, 08:28:08 AM »
If prices will not get down, I will die too... Well... That is name of the game - waiting for next game starting ;)


Offline jmaildom

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2012, 08:42:08 AM »
Jk airlines went down for the following reasons
1. Some 170 d-checks in last year cracked down the balance sheet and required too much effort and time to manage and time was not really available from my side
2. Fuel spike found me with only 60% fuel hedge at 29. If I had the remaining 40% under hedge I could possibly skip the inevitable for a few more months

The basic reason though was the rapid expansion and many tactical errors through the years plus I pushed it too hard on leasing planes than own them( left the game with some 5% only owned planes)

Really usefull lessons learned during the game and hopefully will try to avoid the same mistakes next time

Actually these bk's make the game interesting since new opportunities for other players arise as big airports open to competition once again and a game can become interesting again

Have fun and enjoy!

Offline EsquireFlyer

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2012, 06:09:45 AM »
Good. Im safely hedged for a year on 31

Your hedge is out! Still happy about the spike?  :P
« Last Edit: June 21, 2012, 06:13:37 AM by EsquireFlyer »

Offline [SC] - King Kong

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2012, 07:13:28 AM »
Your hedge is out! Still happy about the spike?  :P

Runs until september.

Until now it ha saved me a damn big bunch of bucks

Offline Airbus101

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2012, 11:52:12 PM »
here we go again, I just watched it climb to 71 today...  :'(

Offline Jona L.

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2012, 11:56:41 PM »
This is the first 80s jump. Will eventually go down to ~50 again in about a year, before it climbs to the 80s again, where it then will remain, until the first 100+ spike comes (which will be around 1981/2) this has been my observation in the last JetAges I played...

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2012, 02:49:56 AM »
Makes me wonder about my investment in md85s with 10k fuel.. im converting to 62s for my long range but its still almost 7000/hr fuel

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2012, 02:50:14 AM »
When do we get a fuel efficient long range ac

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2012, 02:51:28 AM »
Siberian Transcontinental with 71 and POLair with 91 ac just bked

Offline EsquireFlyer

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2012, 03:14:34 AM »
When do we get a fuel efficient long range ac

From what I understand, long range aircraft will not go much below ~7000/hr for most of this scenario. The only improvement will be the ability to carry more passengers (200-300 pax) while burning the same 7000/hr fuel.

In the early 1980s, the 757 will come out, burning only ~400/hr, but by then there will only be 3-5 years left in the game.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2012, 03:16:45 AM by EsquireFlyer »

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2012, 03:21:44 AM »
I dont see demand for those larger ac.. mostly routes with 150 pax for long haul 3000-10000

Offline EsquireFlyer

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2012, 03:35:12 AM »
I dont see demand for those larger ac.. mostly routes with 150 pax for long haul 3000-10000

There are many routes with 500+ or 1000+ pax demand. Such as New York to Tokyo, or London to almost any big city.
However, on the "shorter" long-haul routes such as JFK-LHR, if you use a big plane, your competitors can frequency bomb you with a swarm of smaller planes such as 757s and DC-8s. In DOTM, one guy even used tech-stopped 727s to Europe to sabotage my load factors.

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2012, 03:55:42 AM »
Does frequency really give you that much of a bonus?

Offline EsquireFlyer

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2012, 04:07:13 AM »
Does frequency really give you that much of a bonus?

If you are flying 1 big plane vs someone with 2 smaller planes, the other guy will get almost 2/3 of the traffic (provided that 2/3 can fit onto his 2 planes).
You will get a little more than 1/3, because the large size of your plane gives you some extra passengers, but frequency matters much more than the size of the plane.

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2012, 04:10:30 AM »
Thats really annoying

Offline Jona L.

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2012, 08:07:00 AM »
Thats really annoying

First newcomer to say this... most others make jumps of joy, and start frequency raping....

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2012, 01:54:25 PM »
Haha, I know there are prob different views on that, but If i try to save slots at heathrow with a 747 and someone else decides to sent 10 fokkers id be rather annoyed

Offline EsquireFlyer

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2012, 01:56:16 PM »
First newcomer to say this... most others make jumps of joy, and start frequency raping....

Honestly there should be some kind of law against tech-stopping 727s across oceans.

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2012, 03:53:36 PM »
Superior Express with 216 ac and fresh air with 138 ac both bked.. now if my competitor would just bk lol.

But im hedged at 43 till sept.. then im nervous because i depend on my long haul mc 85s

irro

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Re: Fuel Prices
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2012, 04:06:03 AM »
Just realized that my hedging contract is about to expire.. im hedged at 43 atm.  Should I hedge again or should it come down

 

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