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Author Topic: Strange route pax demand  (Read 626 times)

knutm1980

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Strange route pax demand
« on: May 11, 2012, 01:40:56 AM »
I tried to plan a route from VHHK to RPVM. It looked likea decent route for my plane, it has 100 pax demand daily. I created it and then I get a monopoly warning. I close the route as I'm apparently flooding it. The return leg has a 10 pax daily demand. Not sure if I should post this in bugs, or are there other routes like this?  :'(

Offline ZombieSlayer

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Re: Strange route pax demand
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 02:22:12 AM »
I tried to plan a route from VHHK to RPVM. It looked likea decent route for my plane, it has 100 pax demand daily. I created it and then I get a monopoly warning. I close the route as I'm apparently flooding it. The return leg has a 10 pax daily demand. Not sure if I should post this in bugs, or are there other routes like this?  :'(

This has been a problem since at least JA4 and I dealt with it in JA5 myself at HKG. I just scheduled a plane large enough to satisfy the outbound demand and ate the low LF on the return leg. I am not sure we ever got an explanation as to why this happened and just in this specific market, but it is known and, unfortunately, a pain in the arse!

Don
Co-Founder Elite Worldwide Alliance
CEO PacAir
Designated "Tier 1 Opponent"

knutm1980

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Re: Strange route pax demand
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 07:58:14 AM »
The problem was I got a monopoly warning for the inbound route though..so can plan it but will get fines for it.  :'(

Offline ZombieSlayer

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Re: Strange route pax demand
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 11:21:53 AM »
The problem was I got a monopoly warning for the inbound route though..so can plan it but will get fines for it.  :'(

How many flights a day do you have? As long as you only have 1 in each direction there should not be an over supply warning unless something has changed. The last I heard is the anti monopoly warnings did not kick in unless 2 or more flights totaled 200% of daily demand (1 flight gives you no frequency advantage so no need for anti monopoly measures regardless of aircraft size).

 If you only have 1 flight per day, verify that all 7 flights in each direction leave on a different day (ie, if you have a flight that operates 12345_7 and another that operates on just 6, make sure the return leg of the one on 6 doesn't leave on a different day than the return leg of the 12345_7 flight which would trigger the warning) and if you do have 1234567 in both directions submit a bug report with screen shots!

Don
Co-Founder Elite Worldwide Alliance
CEO PacAir
Designated "Tier 1 Opponent"

knutm1980

  • Former member
Re: Strange route pax demand
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 06:30:43 PM »
How many flights a day do you have? As long as you only have 1 in each direction there should not be an over supply warning unless something has changed. The last I heard is the anti monopoly warnings did not kick in unless 2 or more flights totaled 200% of daily demand (1 flight gives you no frequency advantage so no need for anti monopoly measures regardless of aircraft size).

 If you only have 1 flight per day, verify that all 7 flights in each direction leave on a different day (ie, if you have a flight that operates 12345_7 and another that operates on just 6, make sure the return leg of the one on 6 doesn't leave on a different day than the return leg of the 12345_7 flight which would trigger the warning) and if you do have 1234567 in both directions submit a bug report with screen shots!

Don

Thanks, yeah..it was 2 flights a day each way. Well, I'll keep it for the future..still plenty to fill up.

 

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