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Author Topic: Prop plane  (Read 1112 times)

bob123

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Prop plane
« on: February 16, 2012, 01:47:59 AM »
What is a good prop plane that can fly about 350 nm and turn a profit for those low demand routes.

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 01:57:43 AM »
It, depends on how low your demand is.   If you plan on flying routes with 30 or less PAX daily, I would honestly stay away from those and focus on the 50-100 range, which the Q400 or Saab2000 would be your best bet.

 8)

bob123

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 02:22:13 AM »
I was taking about 50 to 100 demand and Thanks

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 02:26:55 AM »
No Problem

bob123

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 02:37:59 AM »
What about atr

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 04:24:08 AM »
ATR is another option, it is a little slower than the other props, and doesn't have the distance.  As long as your planned routes don't go over 600-700nm (ATR Max range 940, but always try to fly below max distance), then the ATR could work as well

Nlgravity

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 05:11:23 AM »
Havu you concidered Cessna 152? This would work for 4 pax (including the pilot).

zorrin

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 08:37:24 AM »
How do you get four people in a 152?  :o

bob123

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 12:12:48 PM »
Lol

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 01:07:53 PM »
haha easy two in the cockpit and one on each wing  ;D

Jackson.S

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 01:33:03 PM »
With the chance of derailing this thread, came across this a couple days back (Close enough to the 152)





In response to the original question
The BAE ATP will always be my preferred choice with routes under 600nm. The speed difference between the Q400 and ATP
means the difference between the two shouldn't be more then hour if that, as-well as the ATP having a lower average fuel burn and a slightly
shorter take off run, it wins every time.

Your regional aircraft should be doing a bare minimum of 3 flights a day, preferably four or more, any less and you'll just bleed money


bob123

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 08:14:59 PM »
what about Saabs like 340's because they are cheep and i need that.

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2012, 01:10:58 AM »
Saab 340's could work for short hops and bring extra frequency to a route.  Beware, staff costs will probably go up considerably more with this aircraft.  Make sure you don't try to open too many routes with these aircraft at once.  I ran into that problem earlier in the game with the Saab 2000's.  I opened too many routes and had a big fleet, but staff costs were killing me.

Good luck 8)

bob123

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 01:28:32 AM »
I won't use those

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2012, 03:28:50 AM »
I was just looking at your airline, and I see that you have 4 planes and a 5th on the way.  That's good that you have one fleet family.  In my opinion, I wouldn't put too much focus on your next fleet type until your 10th plane.   8)

Aoscad

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2012, 04:24:15 AM »
Right now I am giving the Fokker F.50 a try but my personal favorite is the ATP for sure. Fuel consumption is great for its size and it's cheap to operate.

bob123

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2012, 02:13:57 PM »
Ok I will build up the md80 and then find a second fleet type

minerva

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Re: Prop plane
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2012, 10:20:44 PM »

In response to the original question
The BAE ATP will always be my preferred choice with routes under 600nm. The speed difference between the Q400 and ATP
means the difference between the two shouldn't be more then hour if that, as-well as the ATP having a lower average fuel burn and a slightly
shorter take off run, it wins every time.

Your regional aircraft should be doing a bare minimum of 3 flights a day, preferably four or more, any less and you'll just bleed money


While the differences are so slight as to largely come down to personal preference, I have to disagree the ATP 'wins every time'.  ATP has better fuel economy on the face of it, but it carries fewer pax than Q400 (when compared in the same config) and the latter is nearly 25% faster (which often allows for another turn per day).  If you figure the difference in capacity and speed over the same distance, Q400 actually wins in fuel efficiency, and moreover Q400 also has greater full capacity range (thus more flexibility), turns around 5 mins quicker, and tends to remain in production longer than the ATP (as is the case with MT6).  Maintenance costs for Q400 are also marginally better over time.  So, ATP is a great plane and under-appreciated, but Q400 is so popular for good reasons.


 

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