AirwaySim
Online Airline Management Simulation
Login
Username
Password
 
or login using:
 
My Account
Username:
E-mail:
Edit account
» Achievements
» Logout
Game Credits
Credit balance: 0 Cr
Buy credits
» Credit history
» Credits FAQ

Author Topic: Fuel price  (Read 1743 times)

pagm

  • Former member
Fuel price
« on: January 23, 2012, 01:11:37 AM »
As of 18 Sep, fuel price hit the $500 mark. Good luck everyone...

Offline LemonButt

  • Members
  • Posts: 1895
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 01:28:49 AM »
As of 18 Sep, fuel price hit the $500 mark. Good luck everyone...

Or $227 if you are using imperial units :)

Offline alexgv1

  • Members
  • Posts: 2184
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 02:10:47 AM »
Or $227 if you are using imperial units :)

What's that going by? Per Gallon?
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Offline LemonButt

  • Members
  • Posts: 1895
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 02:12:28 AM »
What's that going by? Per Gallon?

per 1000 pounds instead of 1000 kilograms

Offline alexgv1

  • Members
  • Posts: 2184
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 02:14:05 AM »
per 1000 pounds instead of 1000 kilograms

Duh, was wondering where that factor of 2.2 came from  ::)  cheers

Anyone know how to convert to price per barrel?
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Offline LemonButt

  • Members
  • Posts: 1895
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 02:35:00 AM »
Current prices are $3.08 USD per gallon.  1 gallon = 6.02 pounds.  1000 pounds / 6.02 * $3.08 = $511 per 1000 pounds or $1125 per 1000 kilograms.  Current oil price is $110 per barrel of oil, so AWS prices right now are approx $44 per barrel.

Offline alexgv1

  • Members
  • Posts: 2184
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 02:37:26 AM »
Not so bad when you put it like that  :laugh:

cheers again
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

spundars

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 11:03:58 PM »
I'm pretty lucky I took an fuel supplier just before the rise.. So it didn't take long before I made some nice savings :)

Nlgravity

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 12:16:27 AM »
$44/barrel is a joke when you compare to real life.


Offline alexgv1

  • Members
  • Posts: 2184
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 12:18:14 AM »
$44/barrel is a joke when you compare to real life.

Absolutely... $1500 pretty much reflects market conditions yet it is the bane of many  :'(

Just shows it's the only time hyper inflated margins go out of the window and it's survival of the fittest.
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Nlgravity

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 12:21:38 AM »
This is how your load factor compare to real life airlines.... Keep in mind that fuel prices are 2X higher in real life today than in current game world and airlines are not making money.

Nlgravity

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 12:27:51 AM »
Absolutely... $1500 pretty much reflects market conditions yet it is the bane of many  :'(

Just shows it's the only time hyper inflated margins go out of the window and it's survival of the fittest.

I always repeated this quote: "as long as most airlines in a game world make money, then AWS is not realistic". So of course we want it to be very unrealistic. Otherwise, instead of buying new shiny planes and scheduling competition-free routes we would be doing this:
- Fighting with unions
- Hedging fuel perfectly only to realized it was faaaar from perfect but by then is too late
- Having your customers hate you for charging for checked lugage and snacks
- Watching your stock hover in single-digits for decades
- Issuing Equipment Trust Certificates that are collateralized by 2 to 1 with new aircraft and still paying Treasury + 8% in interest rates and credit agencies rate the 200% secured debt B+
- And lastly, going bankrupt

Offline ArcherII

  • Members
  • Posts: 1935
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 12:32:22 AM »
Don't forget about any crashes (your airline or any airline), steep CI drop and passenger fear for some time.

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

  • Members
  • Posts: 1047
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 12:52:10 AM »
And having much smaller airlines, the days of every player being able to run 100+ aircraft at their HQ would be over.

ACfly

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 12:58:55 AM »
Folks this is a game after all.. In the real world, hardly anyone makes money.. if that was the case for AWS, there would only be 5-10 players at most not 500!

Relax and enjoy some reprieve from realism...

Nlgravity

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 06:16:36 AM »
Quote from: ACfly link=topic=37505.msg200125 #msg200125 date=1327453135
Folks this is a game after all.. In the real world, hardly anyone makes money.. if that was the case for AWS, there would only be 5-10 players at most not 500!

Relax and enjoy some reprieve from realism...

Are you reading our posts? You ate basically quoting us...

Online JumboShrimp

  • Members
  • Posts: 5992
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 05:27:02 PM »
I always repeated this quote: "as long as most airlines in a game world make money, then AWS is not realistic". So of course we want it to be very unrealistic. Otherwise, instead of buying new shiny planes and scheduling competition-free routes we would be doing this:
- Fighting with unions
- Hedging fuel perfectly only to realized it was faaaar from perfect but by then is too late
- Having your customers hate you for charging for checked lugage and snacks
- Watching your stock hover in single-digits for decades
- Issuing Equipment Trust Certificates that are collateralized by 2 to 1 with new aircraft and still paying Treasury + 8% in interest rates and credit agencies rate the 200% secured debt B+
- And lastly, going bankrupt

LOL.  Good summary...

ACfly

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 11:54:38 PM »
Are you reading our posts? You ate basically quoting us...

 ;D no, reading the post takes too long  ;D

Online JumboShrimp

  • Members
  • Posts: 5992
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 11:58:13 PM »
;D no, reading the post takes too long  ;D

LOL, Kind of like speaking to my wife.  As a rule, she does not listen.  Then she comes up with something I said in the past 3 or 4 times, and thinks it is her idea...

Nlgravity

  • Former member
Re: Fuel price
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 02:12:51 AM »
LOL, Kind of like speaking to my wife.  As a rule, she does not listen.  Then she comes up with something I said in the past 3 or 4 times, and thinks it is her idea...

you are not alone my frined.... you are not alone

 

WARNING! This website is not compatible with the old version of Internet Explorer you are using.

If you are using the latest version please turn OFF the compatibility mode.