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Author Topic: ATR 72-500 vs Bombardier dash8-Q400  (Read 10130 times)

unsaid

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ATR 72-500 vs Bombardier dash8-Q400
« on: September 21, 2011, 10:07:38 AM »
Can anyone tell me why people are ordering so many of DashQ400s instead of ATR72-500?
I seriously think ATR is a better plane. It is about 15% cheaper, it uses 12% less gas (when you compare them per pax), it has shorter delviery times. The only downside is ATR doesn't have a long range and it is slower. However, I can fit 3X 650 nm routes in one day on an ATR, and after 700 nm, it is very difficult to make a profit with planes with 60-70 pax.
OK, you can fit 3X800 nm on Q400, but I don't think that's enough. Also, I don't think two routes per day will make a good profit on these planes.

 

Offline Sanabas

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Re: ATR 72-500 vs Bombardier dash8-Q400
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 10:53:34 AM »
Compare the fuel again, and this time factor in the quicker flight. Create a 600 nm route from your base, and look at flight times for both, then see what the fuel burn per pax is.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: ATR 72-500 vs Bombardier dash8-Q400
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 01:49:16 PM »
People like the speed.  Also, Sanabas is correct.  Dash 8s may burn more fuel per hour but they aren't flying as much.  So in the end, 2 hours burning Dash 8 Fuel versus 2.5 hours burning (Dash 8 *.85)

unsaid

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Re: ATR 72-500 vs Bombardier dash8-Q400
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 04:06:16 PM »
Apart from people liking speed, the fuel consumption is exactly the same,
ATR: 590 kg/hr *5,5 Hours /74people = 4,38 kg/pax
Dash: 720 kg/hr * 4,75 hours /78 people = 4,38 kg/pax

This is considering a flight of 512 nm, LAX- Salt Lake City.

Total hours is the time needed to fly back and forth.

Offline Sanabas

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Re: ATR 72-500 vs Bombardier dash8-Q400
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 05:46:06 PM »
So that means the q400 can do extra distance equivalent to 3 hours flight time over each day. That's a lot more flexibility, especially when combined with the longer range. Whether that offsets the higher purchase/lease price and longer wait times probably depends on your airline.

 

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