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Author Topic: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...  (Read 3227 times)

L1011fan

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why are there flights permitted between the U.S., its territiories and Cuba? There has been embargo on that travel since the early 1960's. Just wondered why that isn't modeled in like we did the collapse of the Berlin Wall? I know nothing will change, but as I said, I have to ask! ::)

Offline swiftus27

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 12:16:02 PM »
is there demand between the two cities?

Offline Sanabas

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 11:49:18 PM »
Havana to major US cities demand in DOTM: ~10 pax/day
Havana to Toronto: 170 pax

It's modelled.

Offline Brockster

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 11:59:36 PM »
In this scenario, Havana to Miami has about 150 pax/day but apart from that nothing enough to warrant any kind of meaningful service to the states.

Offline Sanabas

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2011, 01:19:00 AM »
I didn't get far enough down the list, it's 120 pax in DOTM from Miami-Havana. But 330 for Miami-Cancun, a similar airport in size & international %, and 600+ for Miami-Nassau, a similar size with higher international %.

Offline Pilot Oatmeal

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2011, 08:29:57 AM »
It probably is modeled just not for American citizens, I seem to remember it was only Americans that weren't allowed to travel between the two, as my dad who is a UK citizen and US Green card holder took a flight from Miami to Havana in a Yak 42 some years ago... and me on the other hand who is a UK citizen as well as a US citizen was not allowed to go...

Offline Pilot Oatmeal

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2011, 08:33:39 AM »
I'm sorry, I have just confirmed with my dad he actually flew to the bahamas in his plane, then took a flight in a yak 42 to havana...

Offline ZombieSlayer

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 03:19:25 PM »
Yes, no scheduled service between the US and Cuba has been allowed for 40+ years. There are, however, almost daily charters with UA and AA from several cities in Florida that fill up quick. The demand is there, it is just not legal to fly scheduled service to fill the demand!
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L1011fan

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Re: I guess this is not been included in the model, but I have to ask...
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2011, 03:18:07 AM »
Yes, no scheduled service between the US and Cuba has been allowed for 40+ years. There are, however, almost daily charters with UA and AA from several cities in Florida that fill up quick. The demand is there, it is just not legal to fly scheduled service to fill the demand!
Thats what I was getting at.

 

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