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Author Topic: Replacer for B722Adv  (Read 1268 times)

Offline Meicci

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Replacer for B722Adv
« on: August 02, 2011, 08:55:21 PM »
So, is there any other suitable plane coming anytime soon, rather than A320? That is almost identical, but the huge waiting time is a little problem..

Recently certified MD-88 would be otherwise good, but the speed is much slower than B722.

Offline schro

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Re: Replacer for B722Adv
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2011, 09:22:11 PM »
just as with real life, there is not a direct replacement to the 722. The 738 is the true successor from a spec perspective, but that will arrive too late to help you. Boeing pitched the 757 as the 727 replacement, and is what I would suggest. Its about 30% bigger and costs about the same to fly as the 727 using 2 pilots instead of 3. I would replace them 1 for 1 given the amount demand will be growing through the rest of the game. The main downside is the higher turn time which will be annoying if your 727s are all tightly scheduled.

in the last dotm, I replaced a 325 fleet of 727s with a mix of 757 and a306.

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: Replacer for B722Adv
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 09:53:01 PM »
737-400, A321-100/-200, 757-200, MD-8x, Tu-204

All of them have advantages and disadvantages and are a good replacement for 727-200Adv. However, the Tu-204 is only a temporary fix until you could get better ones and no long-time replacement possibility.

Offline LemonButt

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Re: Replacer for B722Adv
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 10:01:33 PM »
So, is there any other suitable plane coming anytime soon, rather than A320? That is almost identical, but the huge waiting time is a little problem..

Recently certified MD-88 would be otherwise good, but the speed is much slower than B722.

On a 1500nm route, there is no time difference between an 727 and an MD-80 assuming ~1% delay turnarounds.  727 requires 75 minute turn while the MD-80 is 70 minutes, which means the MD-80 is 10 minutes faster (roundtrip) to turnaround.  Any differences in speed are nominal and for routes less than 1500, you'll probably end up with an extra 5-20 minutes to play with versus forcing delays with too short turnarounds.

If you directly compare the MD-81 (least fuel efficient MD-80) to the 727, you'll see the fuel savings make it a no-brainer.

Offline Sanabas

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Re: Replacer for B722Adv
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 11:45:45 PM »
On a 1500nm route, there is no time difference between an 727 and an MD-80 assuming ~1% delay turnarounds.  727 requires 75 minute turn while the MD-80 is 70 minutes, which means the MD-80 is 10 minutes faster (roundtrip) to turnaround.

And if you run 65 min turnarounds which have 1.4% chance of delay, you get 10 more minutes to play with per trip. Do that, and the MD-80 will be 20 minutes quicker overall on short routes, a gap that slowly drops as the route gets longer, but is still dead level at 2200nm. It's only slower (and only by 5 or 10 min) if you have a route up near 2500nm, which is about the absolute max for both families (2470 for 727, 2550 for MD80).

Offline alexgv1

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Re: Replacer for B722Adv
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 08:54:00 AM »
I'm going for A320. Lose a bit of capacity but it isn't too punishing in my configs. Plus the -200 boasts good range. 737-400 is a direct match capacity wise but scheduling might be a problem with it's slower cruise speed.
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Offline Meicci

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Re: Replacer for B722Adv
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 10:55:54 AM »
B757 would be a disaster. With 7 day scheduling I have managed to utilize B722's to over 16 hours/day. But the MD88 looks really nice. Altough it has only 150 seats, that won't be a problem. I will just add more flights when the demand allows that.

And the speed won't be a problem either. The longest possible route for me is 2116NM, DCA to SFO. And the B722Adv is only 15 minutes faster on that route..

So, with quicker turn around -time the difference is only 5 mins.

And another plus is the availability. I will get 21 of MD's in just one year. Try to do that with A320 etc..

 

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