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Author Topic: Efficient Use of Aircraft  (Read 1089 times)

Offline ModeSix

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Efficient Use of Aircraft
« on: July 21, 2011, 08:58:07 PM »
So I've been looking at the stats of the various airlines flying out of my home base.

I'm only flying 9 craft right now, and I am holding a solid 12.68% of the market share.

Having looked at the 1 person ahead of me and the person directly after me for market share, they are both running 20+.

Top person for market share: 14.5% - 26 aircraft
Me: 12.68% - 9 aircraft
Person beneath me: 12.26% - 24 aircraft.

My question is, how are these people staying in business?

The leases alone would kill me if I were transporting so few pax with so many aircraft. 

addendum:  My craft are not huge seaters, they are 727 and 737's with 120-150 capacity.

Offline ukatlantic

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2011, 09:03:24 PM »
What aircraft types are they using and what are you using? Dont forget that  if you use 737's and they use Atr 42's your aircraft clearly hold more pax than theirs hence why you have less aircraft but an almost identical market share in terms of pax flown.

Offline ModeSix

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2011, 09:05:18 PM »
I'm flying 727's and 737's.

Top man is flying 767's and 777's currently.
The guy below me is flying A300's, A330's, 757's and 767's.

So it's not a matter of small craft vs big craft.  We're all flying large sized craft.

As a side note, they are both flying long range flights, and I am eating up the short range market, this could be why now that I've looked a bit more closely.


« Last Edit: July 21, 2011, 09:08:54 PM by ModeSix »

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2011, 09:09:37 PM »
I'm not sure, this world seems to have a few odd airlines.

I'm currently competing with someone flying short domestic routes with four different fleet groups, including B767s of all sizes and a single B747-400 flying a 3hr route with competition. I cannot understand why it is not collapsing.

Offline ModeSix

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2011, 09:11:17 PM »
Well I am not going to complain, we're not competing over routes at this point. The two people I was in competition for routes on early in the game both BK'd and aren't at my airport any longer.

Offline ukatlantic

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2011, 09:11:26 PM »
I was just giving you an exampe as to a possible reason for the difference and yes if they are flying medium and long range in wide bodies and your focusing on short range in narrow bodies that will be another reason why the pax % are also so close despite them having larger fleets.

Offline ModeSix

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 09:16:00 PM »
I was just giving you an exampe as to a possible reason for the difference and yes if they are flying medium and long range in wide bodies and your focusing on short range in narrow bodies that will be another reason why the pax % are also so close despite them having larger fleets.

Absolutely I understand.

I guess I just run things differently, I am very much about short range, high turnover routes.

Both of them are showing good financial data on their stats screen, so good for them (as long as they stay off my routes).

mmcg

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 10:11:23 PM »
If they're flying long haul then they're likely only going to carry 300 or so passengers there and back each day per plane, whereas with your short haul 737s you're likely to be carrying 450-600 passengers there and back each day per plane. Hence their similar market share with more planes.

cht7520

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2011, 09:16:56 AM »
I'm not sure, this world seems to have a few odd airlines.

I'm currently competing with someone flying short domestic routes with four different fleet groups, including B767s of all sizes and a single B747-400 flying a 3hr route with competition. I cannot understand why it is not collapsing.

I'm in the same sticky patch. One of my competitors has 5 fleet types, all routes with competition, and somehow he's still not belly up. In fact it's the opposite, he's ordered more A321s.

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2011, 09:27:24 AM »
I'm in the same sticky patch. One of my competitors has 5 fleet types, all routes with competition, and somehow he's still not belly up. In fact it's the opposite, he's ordered more A321s.

Yea, this guy is ordering NG 737s and expanding like nothing despite these fleet groups. I find it mad that they are running a B744 on 1200NM domestic route with competition and it's not killing them.

cht7520

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 09:32:00 AM »
Yea, this guy is ordering NG 737s and expanding like nothing despite these fleet groups. I find it mad that they are running a B744 on 1200NM domestic route with competition and it's not killing them.

Can't wait for the fuel spike.

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 09:33:59 AM »
Can't wait for the fuel spike.

Indeed, 737 Classics, B767s (all types) and a 747. Fuel spike will kill him.

Offline Richard

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2011, 10:30:58 AM »
The fuel spike. Hold on for just a few years guys... just a few years...  8)

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: Efficient Use of Aircraft
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2011, 11:46:03 AM »
Indeed, 737 Classics, B767s (all types) and a 747. Fuel spike will kill him.

If he gets down to 737classic and  767-300/ER/400ER he should be fine.

 

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