City based demand
edidiot:
Hi Sami, I know this was mentioned quite a while back but are we any closer to city based demand? There are plenty of routes (to holiday places mostly) that have big demand from Gatwick but non from Heathrow. The stats are based on the real world experience but this is not because people would not be willing to fly from LHR to these destinations but rather that traditionally that has been that airlines have chosen Gatwick for leisure and Heathrow for business routes. I can see three ways of remedying this.
1) Create city based demand (the best way but I understand this would be a big task)
2) Allow an airline based in a city with multiple airports to base aircraft out of all of them
3) Allow short repositioning flights, at the moment I'm not allowed to fly an acf from LHR to LGW and start a route from there even though I accept that I wont get any revenue for the ferry flight, if this was allowed then 1 or 2 would not be necessary provided the positioning flight was not counted as a leg for turnaround basis other than the time taken to make the flight.
For example - I have a 747 that is based at my LHR hub that I want to send out of LGW. I make a positioning flight for the acf to LGW. Rather than a traditional leg the time taken to do this is just added to the turnaround time for the flight. Say if we needed 200 mins to get 0% delay possibility before from LGW this would be 260 mins. I think this would keep the balance of the game but stop the unrealistic impossibility of flying out of two airports in the same city.
sami:
Being planned for future versions but actual coding / planning is 0% at the moment, as that's for a thing for "AirwaySim v2" or something like that.
I acknowledge the problems in the current airport based model but that's the first version as it was faster and easier to make.
edidiot:
thats cool, thanks Sami
sami:
I'm slowly gathering data on this and planning the system, however this is NOT expected anytime soon. If expected at all, I cannot tell yet.
But the first step has been to get list of cities worldwide and also their coordinates, and population... Here's a few pics where I've compared the results from a single country (Finland) to what Google is giving on their maps function. As you can see the city dots (location) is very close to what they should be on the map. The city location is of course needed as I must tie each airport to the cities and each airport would have a certain 'catchment' area... The system cannot be fully accurate but plan is to find data on cities with population of over 1000-10 000 people which would bring the countrywide accuracy of population to 90-95%.
But this is all just very early testing, the decision to start building the city based system instead of airport based is not even made or planned.
(the maps won't be ever visible to users, there's so much data to display .. but just showing here what kind of data the system is built on)
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Sigma:
Very, Very cool Sami. This is definitely something I'd like to see in the future.
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