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Author Topic: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess  (Read 3027 times)

castelino009

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Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« on: June 22, 2011, 06:10:18 PM »
Airbus has racked up more than 600 orders and commitments since it launched the A320neo last December and still going strong. Le Bourget has brought another influx of orders and is making Boeing think twice.

Here are the orders from Le Bourget 2011 with 1 more trade day to go,  more are expected tomorrow along with new customer for A380:
Air Lease Corporation - 20 A320NEO, 16 A321NEO, 14 NEO options
AviancaTACA - 33 A320NEO
CIT Leasing - 50 A320NEO
Cebu Pacific - 30 A320NEO
Garuda - 10 A320NEO
GECAS - 60 A320NEO
Go Air India - 72 A320NEO
Indigo - 150 A320NEO
JetBlue - 40 A320NEO
LAN - 20 A320NEO
Lufthansa - 25 A320NEO, 5 A321NEO
Republic Airways - 40 A319NEO, 40 A320NEO
SAS - 30 A320NEO
TAM - 22 A320NEO
TransAsia - 6 A321NEO


Great going Airbus, The A320 is a great aircraft and is going to be ONE for a long time .



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Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2011, 06:34:04 PM »
Well, looks like the B737 may be unseated...

castelino009

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2011, 06:41:01 PM »
well 737 is a good aircraft but Boeing is still not sure which way to go. New technology may be there but not to a great extent and spending  money on something which is not there  when they have to address issues of B787 and B747-8I .

I think B737 re-engine and slightly modified is definitely on cards especially after a amazing orders flurry during the Paris air show.

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2011, 07:16:04 PM »
I think they're waiting on the launch of the 787 first. When they're sure the tech works they'll develop a replacement for the 737 based on the the 787.

juanchopancho

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2011, 07:39:00 PM »
Reading what the Boeing leadership has been saying lately they are favoring a new design not a re-engine 737. They're even considering a twin aisle. We'll see.

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castelino009

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 07:51:46 PM »
they have been saying that for a while, but with 787 delays, 747-8i delays , staff problems (union strikes- short term) etc, they are struggling

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 09:04:04 PM »
And I think Airbus has got a better strategy by not altering their A320 type. Although it might be a little less efficient than a completely new type, it saves companies a lot of commonality costs involved. For example, a type rating for a single pilot alone usually costs around 30k already.

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 09:48:20 PM »
Hmm, assuming the 797 (composite 737 or whatever) doesn't take Boeing under, I think that they'll be in advantage in the long run, because when Airbus is rolling out their fully new plane to replace the NEO, Boeing can reengine and will be miles ahead.
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Offline Dan380

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 10:30:07 PM »
And I think Airbus has got a better strategy by not altering their A320 type. Although it might be a little less efficient than a completely new type, it saves companies a lot of commonality costs involved. For example, a type rating for a single pilot alone usually costs around 30k already.

The type rating conversion from a 777 to a 787 is no more than a 3 or 4 day course. I would expect the 737 replacement would be much the same.

castelino009

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 09:23:14 AM »
wohooo Another fantastic start for Airbus

72 x A320neo for Go Air and

200 X A320neo for Air Asia,

Great going Airbus- Well done.

Cheers

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 10:10:28 AM »
Have there been any other Airbus orders or just the A320s?

Any new A380s, A330s, A350s? Or maybe even A340s?

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2011, 11:57:17 AM »
34 A320, 11 A330, 6 A350 and 12 A380 and 667 Airbus 320neo

GEnx

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 12:37:12 PM »
And Air France - KLM are going to place some 40 more orders with Airbus. The exact type is going to be specified next month. :)

Hmm, assuming the 797 (composite 737 or whatever) doesn't take Boeing under, I think that they'll be in advantage in the long run, because when Airbus is rolling out their fully new plane to replace the NEO, Boeing can reengine and will be miles ahead.

Maybe, but my point is that if companies operating the B737 massively want to upgrade their fleet, they'd rather want to stay with the same type than moving to a fully new one. Especially since it then doesn't matter whether they buy the B797, the CS300, the A320neo, etc. because they are now forced to change their fleet type anyway. In other words, Boeing's now potentially lost many customers (though, if they can roll out the B797 rather quickly and if it is significantly better than the A320neo or the CS300 or any other type, this might not be the case).
« Last Edit: June 23, 2011, 12:40:59 PM by Quinoky »

castelino009

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »
Order list for Le Bourget 2011

http://bit.ly/jtp85w

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 05:51:12 PM »
One company clearly did a little better than the others!  ;D

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2011, 08:21:23 PM »
Reading what the Boeing leadership has been saying lately they are favoring a new design not a re-engine 737.

Because they can't. 737 rides so low on ground that they cannot fit the new generation engines that have larger fan diameter. Landing gear rework is rather complicated.

Well, it's a 1960s design...

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2011, 08:26:56 PM »
Because they can't. 737 rides so low on ground that they cannot fit the new generation engines that have larger fan diameter. Landing gear rework is rather complicated.

Well, it's a 1960s design...

All it took to beat out a 50 year old aircraft design was a multinational government consortium working together for several decades. GG Airbus.

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 09:26:39 PM »
Well, I see the Americans shall now start complaining how terrible Airbus is and Boeing is amazing because they're American!  :-\

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Re: Airbus A320NEO - a runaway sucess
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 09:49:10 PM »
Don't forget another one to watch out for - Embraer.

They will announce their move into the narrowbody market soon after Boeing does.

Assuming that Boeing goes for the 180-200 seat market, expect up to an 150 seat product from Embraer competing with the likes of the CSeries.

They also haven't ruled out re-engining the E-Jets and maybe another stretch to 120 or so seats.
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