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Author Topic: Who has the largest fleet of A380?  (Read 3863 times)

Nlgravity

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Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« on: April 29, 2011, 02:52:52 AM »
I would love to know (if you don't mind sharing) about the weekly profit of your A380. Do you think is worth the investment?

Offline BobTheCactus

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 03:05:29 AM »
Not unless there is MASSIVE demand and little competition - the plane is so big that it gets filled last since the game engine prefers smaller aircraft
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Offline Elyk1981

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 06:38:28 AM »

I have quite a few of the A380's

I was quite suprised as I thought they would be alot more profitable then what they are probably better to hold onto the 744 and 777/300 which i think are more profitable.

But for the moment happy to run with them.

With the A380's I do own the most profitable is earning 3.8M per week after expenses running 6 routes.


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Offline swiftus27

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 11:34:34 AM »
only good if there is no competition on the route.

this plane is designed solely for airports with few or no slots left available AND there is sufficient additional demand to warrant this beast.

Offline type45

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2011, 04:47:32 PM »
I want to use A380 (and I've the demand), but somebody is sharing my base with me, so I just forget about this ;)

in MT2 I had a about 14 A380 based at KIX, same as my owned 744 when they are leased. Both of them made a lot of cash. I believe If I have the demand, I own them and with little competition, it can be a great cash cow.

Nlgravity

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2011, 04:53:23 PM »
Despite the long range, I bet A380s are most profitable running a daily sub 4000mm route (i.e. ATL-EGLL) than 5 or 6 ultra long hauls... right?

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2011, 04:57:58 PM »
Despite the long range, I bet A380s are most profitable running a daily sub 4000mm route (i.e. ATL-EGLL) than 5 or 6 ultra long hauls... right?


Yes, that's true for any aircraft.  But given sufficient demand on the route and no competition, A380 can be reasonably profitable, due to good economics as far as fuel consumption per passenger mile etc.  But once you get competition from aircraft half the size, A380 is screwed...

Men

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2011, 05:16:34 PM »
If I fly them on 6000nm route it's possible to make 2 mil per week ?  :-\

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2011, 05:33:19 PM »
If I fly them on 6000nm route it's possible to make 2 mil per week ?  :-\

That's doable, assuming no competition, the routes have good timing, and there are no huge gaps in the aircraft schedule.

flyboy842

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2011, 05:46:58 PM »
assuming no competition

That is what I learned reading this forum...I'm correct to assume that on a ATL-LHR, 8 B777 would trump 4 A380? What would this look like at 200% capacity? would the A380 make a loss?

Men

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2011, 05:51:27 PM »
That's doable, assuming no competition, the routes have good timing, and there are no huge gaps in the aircraft schedule.
I just choose B767-400ER to replace my old DC-10 then I will order some A380  :) .

Thanks for advise.

That is what I learned reading this forum...I'm correct to assume that on a ATL-LHR, 8 B777 would trump 4 A380? What would this look like at 200% capacity? would the A380 make a loss?


more freq = more passengers.

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 05:56:49 PM »
That is what I learned reading this forum...I'm correct to assume that on a ATL-LHR, 8 B777 would trump 4 A380? What would this look like at 200% capacity? would the A380 make a loss?

It is hard losing money flying to LHR due to the high F and C demand.  At 200% capacity, I would try to fly A333 or B764 (if you have either one in your fleet), or even A306, B753 (if you have the slots and again, if you have them in your fleet).

Nlgravity

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 06:05:59 PM »
So basically AWS is like the NYC yellow cab business.... there is a fixed fee as soon as you enter the cab, and then a variable fee (i.e. meter) for the distance you travel. So you want your planes to collect as many fixed fees as possible (frequency).

Warning, this comment may be confusing to some....
Can I make the following assumption? The ticket price for the shortest route (i.e. 100mm), would be X. The ticket price for a 200mm would be X+Y. Can I assume that X is constant and Y is a standard variable cont for distance of route?

Or does the model take into account the size of airports, popularity, etc to figure out default ticket price?

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2011, 06:13:29 PM »
Warning, this comment may be confusing to some....
Can I make the following assumption? The ticket price for the shortest route (i.e. 100mm), would be X. The ticket price for a 200mm would be X+Y. Can I assume that X is constant and Y is a standard variable cont for distance of route?

It probably does work that way:
Base Price + constant * distance

I will take a look at it this weekend.

juanchopancho

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2011, 12:43:55 AM »
In the past the A380s worked great for me.


Peanutoil

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2011, 02:32:04 PM »
I've just reconfig all my 7 A380-800 to be A380-800D. They saved hundreds of slots for me! :o

Men

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2011, 06:05:14 PM »
My airline recive first A380 and it made 3 mil. profit per week(1 791 862 USD all payment includes and the fuel prices is 1069USD ).  :)

ICEcoldair881

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2011, 06:36:57 PM »
I cannot say I've had a TON of experience with the A380 but I've had a few of them and I can tell you that it is true that you need TONS of demand and little to no competition to make them really work. Granted, I've only used them once out of Taiwan at the very end of a game (it ended before the remaining 4 aircraft arrived :P) but they power shot my profits from high to uber high. ;D I had 130 aircraft, all MRJ90s and C130s but the A380s boosted my profits a whole lot and I actually payed off my entire $1.3bn USD loan I had collected from the beginning.. :o I think what I've said speaks for itself. ;)

Cheers and good luck,
ICEcold

Men

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 06:39:41 AM »
I want to ask you something, If I configure my A380 to fly Long Hual (7000nm+) standard or premium seat which will be a good choice ?

ICEcoldair881

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Re: Who has the largest fleet of A380?
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2011, 01:01:40 AM »
depends on the demand.. more demand, I would put premium and add frequencies. less demand I would put standard and just fill it in the least amount of aircraft.. ;)

 

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