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Author Topic: 727 late certification?  (Read 1929 times)

mads9955

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727 late certification?
« on: April 28, 2011, 11:57:44 AM »
just wondering why boeing 727 comes so late? the data of what i could d*** up shows that the 727 100 was certificated the 24 december 1963? in the game it estimated a certification in july 1965  1 and a half years later

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 01:46:02 PM »
Yeah, this scenario brings lots of aircraft extremely late.

AWS has a standard randomization of aircraft certifications - real time date +-18 month. But this is also a customized scenario, so maybe sami set the randomization even higher.

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 02:19:37 PM »
But this is also a customized scenario, so maybe sami set the randomization even higher.

No, they are always standard, +/- 18 months.

Theoretically I could change them but cannot see why as they are very random already.

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 02:49:26 PM »
Thanks for the information on this.

In my opinion it is already (too) random, but who knows what kind of plans you make in your small and dark programming chamber *imagine dark operah music* :P

mads9955

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 06:56:30 PM »
okay thats the reason. Thanks for reply:) just hope the 737 100 will be 18 months early then:)

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 07:18:02 PM »
Guys, this randomizer is done because people would literally sit on waiting for the day they KNEW the plane was coming out.  This way, everyone gets a shot at the planes.

juanchopancho

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 08:09:10 PM »
Even with the randomizer, when I woke up today, the 727 was released and already had 350 orders. Missed it by a few hours and already 2 game years until I can get a 727.

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 08:10:59 PM »
Yeah, now the people that are often online (F5!) have much more chances to get an aircraft. As I came online after sleep etc. the backlog of DC-9 was already over 2 years. Lucky I didn't want this aircraft, but others have no chance.

Ilyushin

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 08:18:50 PM »
Switch to Soviet metal. 8)

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 08:34:28 PM »
Even with the randomizer, when I woke up today, the 727 was released and already had 350 orders. Missed it by a few hours and already 2 game years until I can get a 727.

We all got to sleep.  I saw this, the F.28 and DC 9 were all somehow almost the exact same time.

What is your alternative, then? 

My gripes remain:

1.  Commonality is still a joke.  Many of the companies that ordered the 721 also already have many fleet types.
2.  It is too easy to make money.  There's a reason an airline can order 50 721s right away.  They simply make way too much money.  I am making over a million per week in JA4 with under 70% LFs.

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 08:49:39 PM »

1.  Commonality is still a joke.  Many of the companies that ordered the 721 also already have many fleet types.

This is addressed in the feature request forum. Search "commonality points"

EDIT: whoops, didn't realize it was you Swiftus. I'm sure you know all about commonality points :P
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mads9955

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 09:23:37 PM »
how about an restriktion of ordering planes. and a fair warning of a plane getting ready for order. so annoining with people ordering 50 planes at a time or simple a build in increase of produktion that fit to the number of orders. boeing needs to build more faktories in this game so they build 50 planes a week:)

Offline [ATA] Jax

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 10:49:58 PM »
Are all aircraft released during the night for us here in North America? I believe that the game is European based. I think what would make sense is that if it is an American manufacturer then the aircraft should be released at an appropriate time for that time zone. Or just make it completely random.

juanchopancho

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 11:24:59 PM »
not even 24h & 621 orders already...

L1011fan

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2011, 07:18:38 PM »
Are all aircraft released during the night for us here in North America? I believe that the game is European based. I think what would make sense is that if it is an American manufacturer then the aircraft should be released at an appropriate time for that time zone. Or just make it completely random.
It seems that way doesn't it? Especially the Western part of North America seems (I said "seems") to have the biggest disadvantage. It would be nice to,for once, see a deluge of planes released in the afternoon for people from Baja to Alaska (Hawaii too).  Even the east coast gets a "bit" of better chance than someone in California or British Columbia etc...Anway, I notice this over and over and I just can't get up at 3AM to obtain planes all the time (well actually, I've never done that). We all gotta sleep, right? :(

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2011, 07:25:11 PM »
Release date of aircraft is random. I don't think sami programs some scripts to make his American customers disappear ;)

L1011fan

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2011, 01:18:00 AM »
no not disappear. just when most of us are asleep on this side of the world.  ;)

Offline swiftus27

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2011, 06:09:30 PM »
Glad to read that I wasn't the only one who thought this. 

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Re: 727 late certification?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2011, 05:27:47 PM »
I thought the same thing when the dc-9 and 727 came out. I am on here all the time except when i sleep and they were both released while i was asleep and cues were out to 2 years when i woke up.
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