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Author Topic: Dehavilland Dove  (Read 1626 times)

Sulton111

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Dehavilland Dove
« on: April 13, 2011, 11:00:20 PM »
Hi All

im new to the game and was hoping for some pointers

i have bought outright two Doves flying them out of BRS - Bristol all my load factors are between 45 - 57% and i have an active marketing campaign in the uk only - i only have domestic flights and while my seats are around 10% below the suggested amount (as the in game help suggests) i am still losing money week on week

my airline rating is +16 so i wondered if there was anything i was doing wrong?

thanks for reading

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 11:06:47 PM »
Sulton, first off, welcome to AWS.  You really picked a tough era to start with.

Sadly, you chose a very bad plane to fly with.  The Dove simply does NOT carry enough passengers to make a profit.  You will find that most aircraft labeled as "small" will never make you any money in the end.  Even if the plane shows a profit, they do not make enough money to cover your fixed costs (those are the people in the office).

Sulton111

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 11:09:57 PM »
Thank you for the welcome

ouch tough lesson ive learned then lol

can i ask you what aircraft you suggest starting with? and do you suggest i lease an aircraft and try and lease at least one of my aircraft back possibly at a much reduced rate - if thats possible?

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 11:19:25 PM »
Hello Sulton,

also a warm welcome from my side.

Maybe it will help you if you read through this AWS FAQ and also Swiftus' Guide for Newbs.


Good aircraft to start for you in this game world could be all over 30 seats. Also I would suggest you those which are easy to get from the used market. Maybe C-46 Commando or Bristol 170 Wayfarer. You won't make a bunch of money with them, but I think it's possible to operate a profitable airline, learn how to play AWS and later you can go for bigger aircraft.

If you have much time, you could try to go for some bigger aircraft on the used market like DC-4 or DC-6 or CV-240/340/440, but be warned, they are hard to get because a lot of people are after them.

Sulton111

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 11:25:57 PM »
Thank you also for your warm welcome and thaank you for your advise

i think i am going to bankrupt my airline and start over as i clearly didnt read the users guides - typical guy that i am

thank you guys i really appreciate your help

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 11:53:58 PM »
Dont worry about it.  There are MANY people on here who are more than willing to help.  Always feel free to post something in the General Forum.  Flame posts are NOT tolerated here at all.  (Some think Sami is like Jason Bourne).   Or, you can always send a PM to me or any of the various other members you see on the forums a lot.  I can say almost all of them will offer some advice. 

Sulton111

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2011, 12:50:24 PM »
Cheers Swiftus

BHigg

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 11:24:49 AM »
I am also new to this game and would like to follow up on this question.

Does it ever become profitable to have small planes, maybe when your an established airline, or should we just stay away from small planes all the time.

Also, is this the rule for every game, modern or old.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011, 12:29:59 PM »
I am also new to this game and would like to follow up on this question.

Does it ever become profitable to have small planes, maybe when your an established airline, or should we just stay away from small planes all the time.

Also, is this the rule for every game, modern or old.

run away from planes under 50 passengers.

Ilyushin

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 12:31:41 PM »
run away from planes under 50 passengers.

Basically this, but in scenarios like the Jet Age you'll have trouble finding those on the used market. A Convair 240 will do fine too, with 40 seats. But the more seats, the better.

BHigg

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 12:38:53 PM »
Thanks, for that,

Could you also tell me how long I get in the red! I have just started to make a small profit but i'm at minus 1 mil.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2011, 12:59:46 PM »
it really depends more on profitability than your current cash state

BHigg

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 01:04:36 PM »
it really depends more on profitability than your current cash state

Does that mean that as long as i'm making profit the bank won't send me bankrupt?

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 06:24:47 PM »
Does that mean that as long as i'm making profit the bank won't send me bankrupt?

Exactly that's the way it works in AirwaySim.

But have also in mind if you are very deep in the red your credit rating could be lowered.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 06:27:05 PM »
only get concerned when you get a message from the bank.

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2011, 08:43:52 PM »
Not quite true. Once, I had -40mil cash and was making 4mil a week of profit, and I still got a BK notice
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Offline swiftus27

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Re: Dehavilland Dove
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2011, 02:56:48 PM »
I said it depends MORE on profitability... there are situations where extreme debtload will kill an airline.

 

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