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Author Topic: This just doesn't make sense.  (Read 2594 times)

GDK

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2010, 08:47:03 AM »
GMas, the only thing I see here is the LF. Your tickets sold worth around $600 000 and it is impossible to make a profit of $500 000 as you said unless your previous ticket income used to be high than this.

GMas

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2010, 05:37:11 PM »
You must be right, but look at this flight for example.

Base data
07:00 - 10:20, EGNM - LFMN
10:55 - 12:20, LFMN - EGNM
JZZ143 (EGNM - LFMN)
JZZ144 (LFMN - EGNM)
Every day   
B712, Boeing 717
Assigned to: Boeing 717-200, G-FRED
Seat config: Y100, C0, F0
   

Route                      Ticket prices                      Sold seats    Load factor
EGNM - LFMN    Y: $ 212, C: $ 634, F: $ 1051   Y: 93     Y: 92.9% 
LFMN - EGNM    Y: $ 212, C: $ 634, F: $ 1051   Y: 92     Y: 92.3% 
Manage all prices of route EGNM - LFMN or LFMN - EGNM.
Financial Information (average of last 7 days) (1)
Route               Ticket Income      Fuel       Other costs  Total
EGNM - LFMN   $ 19 686   -$ 4 193   -$ 4 809   $ 10 684
LFMN - EGNM   $ 19 565   -$ 4 493   -$ 4 992   $ 10 080

Offline Sanabas

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2010, 05:57:12 PM »
You must be right, but look at this flight for example.

Base data
07:00 - 10:20, EGNM - LFMN
10:55 - 12:20, LFMN - EGNM
JZZ143 (EGNM - LFMN)
JZZ144 (LFMN - EGNM)
Every day   
B712, Boeing 717
Assigned to: Boeing 717-200, G-FRED
Seat config: Y100, C0, F0
   

Route                      Ticket prices                      Sold seats    Load factor
EGNM - LFMN    Y: $ 212, C: $ 634, F: $ 1051   Y: 93     Y: 92.9% 
LFMN - EGNM    Y: $ 212, C: $ 634, F: $ 1051   Y: 92     Y: 92.3% 
Manage all prices of route EGNM - LFMN or LFMN - EGNM.
Financial Information (average of last 7 days) (1)
Route               Ticket Income      Fuel       Other costs  Total
EGNM - LFMN   $ 19 686   -$ 4 193   -$ 4 809   $ 10 684
LFMN - EGNM   $ 19 565   -$ 4 493   -$ 4 992   $ 10 080

If you multiply that by 15 to get ~600k ticket income, you get ~300k profit before leasing, insurance & maintenance are added, yeah?

GMas

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 03:34:03 AM »
Yeah, but that's not showing up on the plane's profit.

Offline Sanabas

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 06:38:03 AM »
Yeah, but that's not showing up on the plane's profit.

Yes it is. Unless I'm reading things very wrongly. Route info shows ticket sales - fuel, landing costs, passenger costs, navigation costs, handling costs. Plane info shows those same things as fuel and route fees, then adds insurance, maintenance, lease cost. The plane info you posted shows ~210k profit a week for tickets - fuel & route costs, so that plane's routes should add to 210k profit. But then there's 130k of costs not included in the route profits.

GMas

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 07:51:58 PM »
Ok. I think I understand what you're saying

Offline Frogiton

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 10:30:30 PM »
Either way, there is no way your planes were making 500K when your ticket income now is only 600k like what GDK said. And you said LF went up and fuel went down. Your income sheet showed that your straight up revenue was the same from Q1 to Q2 meaning your planes were making about the same revenue, aircraft leases were about the same meaning, you didn't expand at all. The only changes on your income sheet were marketing and office cost, add those togethor and you get about 50 million, if you were to take those huge costs and bring them to regular your profit from Q1 to Q2 would be almost identical so I really don't see a problem.
No replacement for displacement

Riger

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Re: This just doesn't make sense.
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2011, 11:21:35 AM »
Hmm, very interesting.

I think you should post pictures of your prettiest Air hostesses here and that might help us do a more detailed analysis of the situation. .....    ;)

Regards

Richard


 

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